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    Movies That Have Fallen Off the Face of the Earth

    I am not talking about straight to video specials or obscure indies.

    I mean serious productions.
    Academy Award nominations, major actors or early appearances of ones that became big stars, etc.

    What ones can you name?

    A movie I saw in the early 90s during a college class comes to mind.
    Looking For Mr. Goodbar

    The lead actress is very famous. I never thought they were attractive or a great actress but they have a ton of prominent roles. Richard Gere. Tom Berenger, LeVar Burton, etc.
    Yet there is no collector blu Ray, recent release, or anything along those lines.

    Like many 70s movies it is a slap in the face to conventions, mores, and the American Dream. Unlike most, it shows what a mess that becomes.

    I think it has fallen off the face of the earth for that reason. Black people deal drugs. Affluent New York Jews are decadent. Women doing a bunch of drugs and recreational sex with strangers and having abortions have messed up lives. The homosexual community is a mess of psyc issues and violence. Blowing off a Job and potential husband and your family may not be greener grass.

    It, like other movies such as Two Lane Blacktop and Vanishing Point and others, are the slap in the face to convention types, but unlike a simple death or wrongly being done in by The Man, shows the backlash of that slap and the grim reality of being their own undoing vs at the hands of the man.

    It had an Academy Award winning director. An ambitious soundtrack for the era. The box office was a success. The equivalent today would be something like a 100 million box office on a 10 million budget.

    Strangely, the shocking events in the movie, are no longer the sole realm of the grim underbelly of a decaying pre-Giuliani New York City. They are a common city, suburban, and even rural series of events and behaviors.

    My abnormal psychology class was taught by a professor emeritus and former department head. He had been president of the APA during the near 50/50 split in the era where homosexuality was narrowly deemed not a psychological disorder. He never stated his opinion on that. But once a week we got a movie highlighting a psychological diagnosis or personality disorder. The movie was shown to depict the lead as a Borderline Personality Disorder.

    In an American where everyone has become accustomed to doing whatever they want with no shame and no consequences, the harsh, politically incorrect consequences of this movie seem to make it a third rail nobody wants to touch. While some movies famously have no blu ray or recent dvd due to various costs, reluctance of the director, etc. I think this one is just too harsh.

    Off the top of my head,
    I can’t name another movie with so many prominent associated individuals being left on the back burner.

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    Secret of the Incas: Charlton Heston in the movie that may very well have been the main inspiration for Indiana Jones. It's only available on a foreign DVD

    Fantasia: on again off again available on DVD (right now Amazon appears to only have this on the secondary market from alternate sellers). On Blu Ray you have to get a foreign release but luckily it's in English and it plays just fine on a Region One player.


    The theatrical edit of Last of the Mohicans

    Supposedly the theatrical version is preferred by fans over the director's cut, partly due to the inclusion of the Clannad song that is not in the director's version. The only version that may be currently available is the director's cut. The Blu Ray is definitely the director's cut and I've always read that the DVD is also, but this could have changed in the years since I purchased it. I personally don't think there is a dime's worth of difference between the two versions.

    Let It Be

    Supposedly the two surviving Beatles are blocking a "restored" version of this that would have incorporated scenes not in the original. It seems these two "legacy minded" (cough) remaining Beatles are concerned that some of the scenes show some rancorous bickering that might sully their long-term image.

    I could name a slew of others that either never made it to Blu Ray or the Blu Ray is a rare collectible. Among the movies only available on DVD and fading fast are The Ghost and the Darkness, Uncommon Valor, Public Enemies.....


    But the winner is:

    Song of the South

    Supposedly even Disney's CEO hates this one because of racial stereotypes.

    I suspect this movie will cease to exist in any form and all memories of it will be wiped from history.
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    There’s apparently a Directors Edition Of TOMBSTONE, with something like ten extra minutes of footage. May have been DVD only and never released on BluRay. However I can never seem to find it. Also there’s a DE of HEAT however now I can’t seem to get the non-DE copy on BluRay.

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    The New Centurions Probably the most realistic police movie even today but made in the 1970s. It doesn't shy from ghetto life. Police suicide. A corrupt system. The white police leaves his boring Stacey wife for a black chick because he finally got awoken to the world. His FTO dies, he drifts from his academy buddies, he sees how bullshit everything is. It's a classic. Had Stacy Keach and George Scott.

    The Young Warriors
    It was like Platoon but set in WWII on a shoestring and had a lot of stolen foitige from To Hell and Back but it could only have existed in that weird part of the 1960s.

    Carbine Williams Jimmy Stewart as A convicted white felon building a semi auto rifle in prison? Can't have that.

    The Sniper A disaffected homosexual Korean War vet who shoots women because of his frustration? That's a no-no.

    Birth of a Nation hoo boy they tried to shut this one down SO HARD. Yep it has the KKK in it, but is also one of the more realistic depictions of the Civil War because they used live ammo, surplus uniforms from that war, and had guys still young enough playing older soldiers of their respective armies.

    Everybody has an opinion about the movie but hasn't ever really watched it despite it being on Youtube (before it gets shut down again)

    ETA Honorable Mention

    Paradise People thought it was a Blue Lagoon rip off. NEWP. It showed the Muslims as none too friendly. It also showed Phoebe Cates as naked as the day God made her. Anytime they show it on TV a lot gets cut even on cable. So to those who still have it on VHS.....
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    Carbine Williams Jimmy Stewart as A convicted white felon building a semi auto rifle in prison? Can't have that.

    This was just shown on ME t.v. last week

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    I saw Carbine Williams about 3 months ago on a cable channel, don't remember which one.

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    Oooh that grinds my gears. I watch the old fart channels regular and am upset I missed Carbine Williams. I saw it as a lad and didnt believe it was a true story but it WAS. Carbine Williams even came up with this Buck Rogers looking beltfed .22lr machine gun that IIRC saw like super limited field testing in Vietnam. I read about it in Small Arms Review like 14 years ago.

    ETA found a pic



    That might clear a hooch or two....
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    I have all of these except Paradise, I can't seem to find a decent copy anywhere.

    Even more difficult are original version pre codes, in 1934 most of them got chopped up forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Oooh that grinds my gears. I watch the old fart channels regular and am upset I missed Carbine Williams. I saw it as a lad and didnt believe it was a true story but it WAS. Carbine Williams even came up with this Buck Rogers looking beltfed .22lr machine gun that IIRC saw like super limited field testing in Vietnam. I read about it in Small Arms Review like 14 years ago.

    ETA found a pic



    That might clear a hooch or two....
    Here you go. A lot of the other films you listed are also available.

    https://www.amazon.com/Carbine-Willi...e+williams+dvd
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Yeah, Grit ran Carbine Williams at least twice this week. It must be in their rotation this month.

    I had Song of the South on DVD until the tornado hit our house in 2011. It's ironic that the movie that gave us 'Zip a Dee Doo Dah' is buried by Disney.
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