An adventure into reducing muzzle climb and felt recoil
Not a troll post this time, FYI.
First, some "facts":
1) The AR15 is designed to function within a particular set of specifications. Combined, they result in a very reliable firearm. Mess up these specifications, and reliability may suffer.
2) The felt recoil/muzzle climb on the AR15 is nothing compared to say, a .30-06 M1 Garand, but it is quite a bit more than a .22LR AR15 clone.
3) Eurodriver likes things simple, and I don't like muzzle climb or felt recoil.
Now, I have jumped on the Battlecomp/FSC556/BCM Comp train and always went back to flash hiders. I shoot under NV almost exclusively these days (Because it's ****ing awesome) and those comps are both ridiculously loud (even country folks don't like semi automatic gunfire at 3am) and light up your NV at night. Even a suppressor has enough flash that can almost be distracting out of an SBR, so no one come in here with that "But mah xxxx comp ain't go no flash!" bullshit, please.
The trade off of course is that the rifle has more muzzle climb and felt recoil. I've experimented with a few ways to reduce the felt recoil and muzzle climb for faster splits and oddly (or duh!) enough the gas system seems to be where the easiest bang for the buck is. I don't like to **** around with silent capture springs, buffers, springs, and all of that ridiculousness. But who knows? That's the purpose of this thread - I know a lot of guys spend a lot of time and money researching this stuff, and I just stumbled across it by accident. I had an SBR lower with an A5H0 (I think?) buffer from 2011 or so (It doesn't even say A5 on the buffer it says "VLTOR Patent Pending") and in the course of building an SBR that was mostly run suppressed with NV I put a Gemtech Suppressed BCG in it. On the unsuppressed setting I found an incredible reduction in felt recoil and muzzle climb. It was absolutely noticeable to everyone who got behind the gun. The upper is a SOLGW 11.5" and per their own they make their gas port sizes to spec as well.
Now before folks chime in with "But small gas port barrel"...been there, done that. Got the post for it.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...Update-Page-4*
It was certainly less "thumpy" (thanks RetreatHell) than a traditionally gas ported SBR while suppressed, but it was not as smooth as the Gemtech BCG is when suppressed and it had reliability issues while unsuppressed. Eventually I got it to work with an LMT Enhanced BCG and a light buffer, but at that point I was like "The complexity here isn't what I was going for". On the other hand, I know Sionics has done a lot of T&E for this sort of thing. I'd be curious to hear people's thoughts on that. Let's stick to unsuppressed muzzle climb and felt recoil for the purposes of this thread, though.
So my question is - what have you found that increases your split times the most (objective measurements are cool) but is simple and isn't some ridiculous space-gun contraption that could potentially reduce reliability? Besides, of course, practice...which nobody really does.
Last edited by Eurodriver; 01-15-18 at 07:40.
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