Responsible Person Questionnaire with Individual Form 4?

[Bret]

That's what I do and why I was able to help the dealer conclude that the agent didn't know what he was talking about. Even if you read the instructions, it's not always clear what exactly is required. For example, on a Form 1 the instructions for (1) Item 4a says "If you are modifying an existing firearm, enter the name and location of the original manufacturer." Yes the header in section 4a says "Name and Address of Original Manufacturer and/or Importer of Firearm". Location might just be a country or city while address is much more specific. And what's this "and/or" thing? Who decides if it's "and" or "or" and under what conditions? In the past I always just put the city and country of the manufacturer on my Form 1's. Now with this version of the form I put the specific address of both the importer and manufacturer just to be sure. Another example of it not always being clear what's required is the picture for the CLEO copy. The form clearly has a place for the picture on the CLEO copy, yet the ATF has said one is not required on that copy. If that's the case, the form should say so.

What would really be neat is if the ATF agents would provide correct instructions.

[MegademiC]

I know it can be difficult to find, maybe im just fortunate, but my SOT is an NFA lawyer who wrote my trust and answers all my questions and tells me what needs done. No research needed other than hardware.

[BigWaylon]

Another example of it not always being clear what's required is the picture for the CLEO copy. The form clearly has a place for the picture on the CLEO copy, yet the ATF has said one is not required on that copy. If that's the case, the form should say so.

I believe the initial 41F forms had that issue, but the current one does not. The photo section on the CLEO copy is grayed out. Same goes for serial number.

[EODbusch]

So, out of curiosity, who or what does the RPQ pertain to?

[BigWaylon]

So, out of curiosity, who or what does the RPQ pertain to?

For applications by "other than individual", it pertains who everybody that meets the ATF's definition of Responsible Person.

[MegademiC]

So, out of curiosity, who or what does the RPQ pertain to?

What the above poster said. For example, a trustee in a trust who wants to have access to the item.

[EODbusch]

I assumed that, but I've filled out a few F4 and a F1 under my trust and have never seen that! The F1 is the only one since 41F.

[BigWaylon]

I assumed that, but I've filled out a few F4 and a F1 under my trust and have never seen that! The F1 is the only one since 41F.

Have you filed since 41F went into effect? It's a new form to accomplish the background checks that weren't done pre-41F.

ETA: nevermind...reread your post. It's a new process, that's why you've only seen it the one time.

[SteyrAUG]

The dealer shouldn't have been calling the ATF in the first place.

Quite often ATF visits the dealer during compliance inspections and from time to time provides incorrect or contradictory information that "they" insist is correct. I had a ATF inspector who had no idea what "pre may" dealer samples were and stated flat out if I ever retired my FFL / SOT I had to get rid of them AND I then had to pay a $200 tax stamp for every NFA item in my inventory that remained with me.

[EODbusch]

Have you filed since 41F went into effect? It's a new form to accomplish the background checks that weren't done pre-41F.

ETA: nevermind...reread your post. It's a new process, that's why you've only seen it the one time.

SOOO, I just contacted the LGS (I won't name them, but we all know them) and they hadn't finished processing my paperwork, which explains why I've never seen the RPQ. Just signed my F1 and notice the RPQ attached to the back.