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    As several knowledgeable people have mentioned, yes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    As several knowledgeable people have mentioned, yes.
    Thanks for the help guys.
    I thought so, but wanted to be sure.

    Back when we only had 43 machineguns:
    https://youtu.be/bmeRROzi_4k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    No help to give, but...

    Damn, man, I wanna be YOU when I grow up.
    Screw growing up. I've already done that and it is overrated. His job is the coolest occupation I've heard in awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masakari View Post
    Thanks for the help guys.
    I thought so, but wanted to be sure.

    Back when we only had 43 machineguns:
    https://youtu.be/bmeRROzi_4k
    Cool video, thanks for sharing.
    The only one that made the shooter smile. Ingram .380 M11A1.
    1200+ rpm. Thirty rounds in less than 2 seconds.

    I have one of those little buzz guns in my pile. It still can put a grin on my face.
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    Can someone please explain to me how this works? Can someone point me to a letter or the regulation that outlines this? To take home a machinegun, doesn't the employee have to be on the FFL or something? Is it different for transferable machineguns than it is for dealer samples?
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    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/at...ter-9/download

    9.5.2 Possession of firearms by employees of FFLs/SOTs for employers’ business purposes. No “transfer” under the NFA occurs when an FFL/SOT permits a bona fide employee to take custody of its registered NFA firearms for purposes within the employee’s scope of employment and for the business purposes of the FFL/SOT. Therefore, no approved ATF transfer form is required when employees take
    custody of firearms under these circumstances. In addition, the interstate delivery of a firearm to the employee and the employee’s receipt of the firearm would not violate the GCA.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    Can someone please explain to me how this works? Can someone point me to a letter or the regulation that outlines this? To take home a machinegun, doesn't the employee have to be on the FFL or something? Is it different for transferable machineguns than it is for dealer samples?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/at...ter-9/download

    9.5.2 Possession of firearms by employees of FFLs/SOTs for employers’ business purposes. No “transfer” under the NFA occurs when an FFL/SOT permits a bona fide employee to take custody of its registered NFA firearms for purposes within the employee’s scope of employment and for the business purposes of the FFL/SOT. Therefore, no approved ATF transfer form is required when employees take
    custody of firearms under these circumstances. In addition, the interstate delivery of a firearm to the employee and the employee’s receipt of the firearm would not violate the GCA.
    Per this , if you hired me to perform T&E on your product, were it a machine gun, does this mean you could legally ship it to me, and I could shoot it for purposes of this testing, this would be legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    Per this , if you hired me to perform T&E on your product, were it a machine gun, does this mean you could legally ship it to me, and I could shoot it for purposes of this testing, this would be legal?
    No, you would not be a bona-fide employee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bullseye View Post
    Screw growing up. I've already done that and it is overrated. His job is the coolest occupation I've heard in awhile.
    Haha thanks. It's only one of my 4 occupations, the other ones are pretty cool too, I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ready.Fire.Aim View Post
    Cool video, thanks for sharing.
    The only one that made the shooter smile. Ingram .380 M11A1.
    1200+ rpm. Thirty rounds in less than 2 seconds.

    I have one of those little buzz guns in my pile. It still can put a grin on my face.
    The shooter is me, and yeah I love that thing. Buzz saw.
    My favorites are the M16A2/M203, SCAR-H, SA58 FAL, and AUG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/at...ter-9/download

    9.5.2 Possession of firearms by employees of FFLs/SOTs for employers’ business purposes. No “transfer” under the NFA occurs when an FFL/SOT permits a bona fide employee to take custody of its registered NFA firearms for purposes within the employee’s scope of employment and for the business purposes of the FFL/SOT. Therefore, no approved ATF transfer form is required when employees take
    custody of firearms under these circumstances. In addition, the interstate delivery of a firearm to the employee and the employee’s receipt of the firearm would not violate the GCA.
    Thanks for that, very useful.
    Last edited by masakari; 02-12-18 at 14:14.

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