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    Favorite liberal propaganda after shootings?

    In the following weeks of every mass shooting in America, the media along with average citizens, politicians and celebrities go into full gun control mode. Social media sites such has Facebook and Twitter are used to debate the need or cause for wanting gun control and in almost every case, there is blame on the NRA, gun shows, legal loop holes, the AR-15 itself, high cap magazines, out dated constitution, outdated laws etc.

    I have noticed that liberal websites such as Yahoo!, Vox, Slate, Huffpost, New York Times and GQ publish extensive articles informing readers the same old story: about how easy it is to purchase a AR-15, you can own an assault rifle before you can buy a beer, no need for 30 round magazine, no need for a gun except for hunting, self defense is not a good reason to own a handgun etc. But I have noticed that a lot of these articles are pulled and disappear in a 24 hour period. In almost every case, these articles are long, statistics are not 100% accurate, details on actual shooting are here say, and the overall objective (gun control) is not based on facts but personal opinion.

    However, it seems that Donald J Trump is going to always be headline news for the foreseeable future on these liberal and left leaning websites and blogs. As long as Trump is our President, I feel that there isn't anything that can overshadow his administration. Talk about taking one for the team!

    Anyways is there anything you read in the past that really stood out to you as liberal propaganda or 100% miss leading? What was your favorite argument?

    Here is my favorite arguments:

    1. Yahoo! states that AR-15 owners in huge numbers are voluntarily turning over there AR's to law enforcement- im going to say this is miss leading
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-s...140114808.html

    2. Huffpost claims it took them 38 minutes to purchase a "vietman era machine gun" which they called "murder weapon", "death machine" at a pawn shop, it was a Diamond Back DB15. Huff claims they could have been "locked and loaded in 5 minutes". - im going to call bullshit!
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0e4fe5143fd4d

    3.This is Vox trying to explain Americas gun violence problems using fake statistics on maps and charts:-
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...cs-maps-charts

    4. This is a good one. This is Vox trying to explain that the NRA shifted the country from the view that the Second Amendment is about the federal government’s role in state-run militias to one that it’s really about individual Americans’ right to bear arms.
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...gun-policy-nra

    5. This is a fascinating piece: MSNBC explains a legal loophole means that anyone, including criminals, can order a so-called “ghost gun” off the web without a background check – a gun with no serial number that can’t be traced. And when these parts are assembled, some how they are legal- even for criminals.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...online-n719121

    6. I saved the best for last: CNN describes a world where it is legal to build full auto machines guns in your garage from unregistered and even 3D printed parts, but you cant sell them unless you pay $200 to the BATFE.
    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1203263

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    I find nothing comforting in the liberal media agenda. It will prove to simply be white noise as there is zero agenda for gun control in any branch of government. That is where it counts.

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    They use state level data on gun deaths when it is city, or even really smaller than zip code areas that are the meaningful resolution.

    That and ‘you don’t need an AR to hunt’, and watch their eyes bug out at an hog hunt with an AR from a helo in Texas.

    All the gun owners, against guns.

    The 7-10 mass shootings all were with ARs, when there are 4,000,000+ out there, for something like 0.0002% are used to kill. I wish illegals had that kind of kill rate.

    They seem addicted to ‘blood on the hands’. Interestingly, kind of biblical.

    ‘Something ‘ or ‘anything’.

    ‘You love your guns more than your children’. I actually love them both. I’m totally head over heals when I can go shooting with my kids.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Really?
    It all kind of sickens me. I'm of the opinion that the Liberals need to be allowed the left and the right coasts and leave the rest of us alone.
    They can figure out how to grow corn, wheat and barley in Brooklyn.
    We can just go on being free.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/u...t-weapons.html

    Mine is RINOs that pop out and give liberals propaganda opportunities.

    LOL, looking there, he’s a Bush supporter.

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    Many Libs say the AR-15 is a "weapon of war" and was never intended for civilian use. Also, that mass shootings, and mass murders never happen outside the U.S. because of other countries' strict gun laws, and gun bans. Vehicles, and other implements used to kill are OK, because they are not designed, nor intended to kill. So the car, or truck knows what it was designed for, and possesses will and intent.

    My favorite is that we are no longer threatened by Great Britain which is why the 2A, so the 2A is obsolete, and the 2A was only meant for muskets as the Founding Father's could never foresee "machine guns" like the AR-15.
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    These people need to have their fantasies refuted. Plain and simple.

    In most cases I try to do it nicely and constructively. Many of them are just ignorant and don't even know they are being lied to and manipulated by a giant, effective propaganda machine. Many are pissed when they find out.

    Some of them can't be reached, or don't want to be reached, yet… If it needs to get loud, then loud I can do, but I find it more effective to stay calm, cool and collected, and present facts. The louder and more irate they become when confronted with reality and truth, the more calm and concentrated I become. Everyone watching and listening sees them losing their sh*t and screaming vile insults and profanity, and me calmly pointing out the reality of the situation.

    As far as finding their lies and exaggerations entertaining? I don't. I don't find it amusing because WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY too many people believe their non-sense and lies and parrot it to anyone who will listen. How many times have friends, co-workers and family asked you "Why does anyone need and AR-15?" Every time I hear that question I am reminded of just how powerful, resilient and crafty the enemies of freedom are. We must also be powerful, resilient, persistent and intelligent if we wish to defeat our enemies, the enemies of American freedom.
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    There is legislation currently being circulated in Washinton being introduced by of course, Dianne Feinstein to raise restrictions and the minimum age to purchase "military grade assault rifle" from 18-21 years old.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-feins...075036864.html

    The Federalist got it right: We can NOT have a gun debate if the liberals keep lying about them:
    http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/16/...ng-about-them/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
    My favorite is that we are no longer threatened by Great Britain which is why the 2A, so the 2A is obsolete, and the 2A was only meant for muskets as the Founding Father's could never foresee "machine guns" like the AR-15.
    And anyone who says that should lose their rights to free speech because the FF could never have imagined the internet, twitter, etc.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    MY favorite media hysteria.


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