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Thread: National School Walkout 03/14/2018 thoughts, concerns, news

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I really don't think we were more divided in the 1960's.

    Yes we had some terrorism from within, but it was marginalized.

    Today we don't have terrorist, but we as a society are much more divided. People can't even talk to each other and have a debate and come to an agreement at the end.

    I think the rift in the society is much more dangerous if it can't be resolved than a few SLA and the Weather underground etc.
    I disagree. "Don't trust anyone under 30" was the general rule. The "student revolution" was far more pervasive and more importantly, they were actually changing policy at gunpoint.

    And while every college age kid wasn't involved in terrorism, they generally gave those groups tacit support. Of course things like the draft and Vietnam were profoundly polarizing and I think that is the key difference. If you still had the draft today, then things would actually be worse today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    Honestly internet porn and smart phones keep most of the would be black bloc at home.

    I think what Yoni and I are getting at is if you look at the polling data and the like which is where political scientist get their numbers from we have not been this divided as a nation since the Civil War era. I wasn't around for the 60's but the country was much more unified back then with the exception of the radicals you mentioned and the whole counter culture.
    That I accept. I think we've been 50/50 ever since Bush / Gore 2000. Politically we are very polarized with majorities almost at the extremes, there is no longer any mostly middle ground population where people mostly wanted the same things but disagreed on the best way to get there. Now it's "our radical extremist" vs. "their radical extremist" but at least we aren't throwing as many molotov cocktails as we did 50 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by platoonDaddy View Post
    Chicago students allegedly trash Walmart during National School Walkout protest


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/16...t-protest.html
    Just getting their piece of justice, I'm sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    In my experience the faster people write cursive the less useful it becomes.

    It's far more important we teach kids to type than cursive, and there is a limited amount of time to teach. Speech to text will be perfected before the next batch of kids who learn cursive in elementary school get into middle school.
    Ummm
    Obviously knowing how to type is fine.
    I learned cursive in grade school and typing in middle school.
    But someone will be along to say typing is outdated, you need to learn tested.
    Or dictation. Basically all stuff requiring tech or space occupying stuff maybe not amenable to what you are doing.

    The reality is, if you need to put down information fast you need cursive or some other form faster than printing.

    Then again,
    Cursive was taught when grade school kids memorized multiplication tables, Latin, and did not graduate high school illiterate or college with math no higher than algebra,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    Just getting their piece of justice, I'm sure...
    They are learning young- use any excuse to riot and loot.
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    Interesting turn of events:

    Arkansas student says he was paddled for gun control walkout

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/17/us/pa...ter/index.html

    Students across the United States are serving detention or in-school suspension as discipline for walking out of class Wednesday to protest gun violence.

    But a student at Greenbrier High in Arkansas says he was punished a different way.
    Wylie Greer told CNN that only he and two other students walked out, and while they
    were sitting outside the school building, the principal approached and asked if they knew "there would be consequences" for their action.
    They said yes, Greer said, and returned to class. The 17-year-old senior discovered he had a choice of discipline: two days of in-school suspension or two swats with a wooden paddle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    I think that kids are being exposed to typing - keyboarding they call it - earlier and earlier, often beginning in third grade.

    My cursive is terrible, if I want someone else to read what I put pen to, I print. That being said it is faster for me to take notes for myself by writing in cursive if I'm the only one who is going to read them.

    Both my daughters can text faster with two thumbs than I can type, lol.

    Speech to text is great - if the technology tools are present to be used, they may not always be.
    Yup, I was in the second grade in '88 and that is when we started typing classes in the computer lab.

    I have always been thankful for that. Probably one of the most useful things we were taught back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by platoonDaddy View Post
    Ohio Student Suspended for Refusing to Leave Classroom During Gun Control Walkout



    https://ijr.com/2018/03/1076385-ohio...ave-classroom/
    So where were the teachers?

    If this "grass roots" nation wide protest was formed by students and student led where in the actual hell were the educators being PAID to be present at their job in their classrooms that day? Were they out there protesting too on the clock?

    Kid should have just skipped school that day, or the parents should have pulled him out.

    "Go to study hall if you don't want to skip school to protest the 2nd Amendment", in my day study hall was viewed as a form of punishment.

    **** that noise.
    "In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf


    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon 10/30/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by platoonDaddy View Post
    Chicago students allegedly trash Walmart during National School Walkout protest


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/16...t-protest.html

    I'm glad someone posted this . . .


    Here is a woman's cell vid of the aftermath:
    "In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf


    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon 10/30/18

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    Nevermind
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