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    9/11 15 years later

    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    No plane debirs/parts were found at the Pentagon....
    Thays because it was a cruise missle...



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    Last edited by Kenneth; 04-18-18 at 19:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    No plane debirs/parts were found at the Pentagon....
    Really?

    Though dozens of witnesses saw a Boeing 757 hit the building, conspiracy advocates insist there is evidence that a missile or a different type of plane smashed into the Pentagon.

    I know, part of the conspiracy, correct?

    Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

    While searching through wreckage inside the building, firefighters Carlton Burkhammer and Brian Moravitz "spotted an intact seat from the plane's cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached." Burkhammer also "spotted lime-green pieces from the interior of the plane" within the building. http://www.msnbc.com/news/635293.asp

    CMSgt. John Monaccio wrote: "I was in room 1B461. The plane's inertia carried aircraft remains all the way through the building coming to rest on the outside walls of our offices. We discovered cockpit wreckage at our feet while attempting to rescue people from a Navy operations area." http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon..._20020316.html

    ARFF Captain Michael Defina said: "The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear." http://www.nfpa.org/NFPAJournal/Onli...e_11.01.01.asp

    "I thought it was a terrorist bomb. . . .But then I saw the landing gear. It was on the ground in the alley between the B and C rings. When I saw it there, not only did I realize an airplane had struck the Pentagon but it was clear that the plane had come through the E, D, and C buildings to get there." (Paul K. Carlton, Jr., U.S. Air Force surgeon general, quoted by Dean Murphy, "September 11: An Oral History," p. 216

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...yths-pentagon/

    http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

    Pretty sure all parties aren't involved in a cover-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    Really?

    Though dozens of witnesses saw a Boeing 757 hit the building, conspiracy advocates insist there is evidence that a missile or a different type of plane smashed into the Pentagon.

    I know, part of the conspiracy, correct?

    Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

    While searching through wreckage inside the building, firefighters Carlton Burkhammer and Brian Moravitz "spotted an intact seat from the plane's cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached." Burkhammer also "spotted lime-green pieces from the interior of the plane" within the building. http://www.msnbc.com/news/635293.asp

    CMSgt. John Monaccio wrote: "I was in room 1B461. The plane's inertia carried aircraft remains all the way through the building coming to rest on the outside walls of our offices. We discovered cockpit wreckage at our feet while attempting to rescue people from a Navy operations area." http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon..._20020316.html

    ARFF Captain Michael Defina said: "The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear." http://www.nfpa.org/NFPAJournal/Onli...e_11.01.01.asp

    "I thought it was a terrorist bomb. . . .But then I saw the landing gear. It was on the ground in the alley between the B and C rings. When I saw it there, not only did I realize an airplane had struck the Pentagon but it was clear that the plane had come through the E, D, and C buildings to get there." (Paul K. Carlton, Jr., U.S. Air Force surgeon general, quoted by Dean Murphy, "September 11: An Oral History," p. 216

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...yths-pentagon/

    http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

    Pretty sure all parties aren't involved in a cover-up.
    The Russians must have gotten to all of those folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    The Russians must have gotten to all of those folks.
    Plenty of parts found, and thousands saw a plane fly into that building,

    "Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...yths-pentagon/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    No plane debirs/parts were found at the Pentagon....
    Let's not let conspiracy theories dishonor those who lost their lives on that plane. I had two co-workers who were on AA Flt 77:
    https://pentagonmemorial.org/explore...ndler-r-keller
    https://pentagonmemorial.org/explore...ruben-s-ornedo

    Whether it was that plane or something else that crashed into the Pentagon, I know that these two good people vanished from the lives of all around them. That's real.

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    MM: Sorry for the loss of your friends.

    I apologize for the somewhat snarky reply to Moose. From the perspective of time and distance it is easy to lose track of the fact that real people lost their lives in the attack and the cost to their families and friends.

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    I was at a wake of all places and my cousin's hipster husband started in on the whole conspiracy theory (theories) on this.
    My Uncle who owns the Bar and is a vet reached across the bar, poured his whiskey down the drain and asked him to find a ride because he had to go.

    If there was a conspiracy, it was about getting the families of the Saudi's out of the US safely and Bin Laden's family was a priority.
    The Saudi's still deserve a kick in the ads for their part in this.
    Instead we're in Syria, intentionally or not, clearing the way for their pipeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
    Thays because it was a cruise missle...



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    No I remember seeing news footage inside the Pentagon after the attack. There were walls down, water flowing from pipes that were broken and I remember them panning around the area where a wheel from a
    jet can be seen along with other debris. I have no doubt a jet hit the building. What I question is who knew that was going to happen and since it involved the Saudi government- then why was nothing ever done to them? Why no repercussions?
    Last edited by RetroRevolver77; 04-19-18 at 13:19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I was at a wake of all places and my cousin's hipster husband started in on the whole conspiracy theory (theories) on this.
    My Uncle who owns the Bar and is a vet reached across the bar, poured his whiskey down the drain and asked him to find a ride because he had to go.

    If there was a conspiracy, it was about getting the families of the Saudi's out of the US safely and Bin Laden's family was a priority.
    The Saudi's still deserve a kick in the ads for their part in this.
    Instead we're in Syria, intentionally or not, clearing the way for their pipeline.
    I almost forgot. Even many of the controlled demo claimers realizing the logistics of that to do on the ground without anyone noticing was impossible, the latest claim is the towers were taken down via secret gov energy weapon. I will not post a link as i don't wish to drive any traffic to those idiots, but that's what's replaced the idea of planted charges for some of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    MM: Sorry for the loss of your friends.

    I apologize for the somewhat snarky reply to Moose. From the perspective of time and distance it is easy to lose track of the fact that real people lost their lives in the attack and the cost to their families and friends.
    I think a lot of Americans, particularly the open borders libtards, have forgotten the horror fellow Americans faced that day.
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