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Thread: AR9 & AR556 both in Pistol version, pros/cons, why & why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoltActionAssault View Post
    The LAW folding stock adapter might be of interest to you.

    https://www.lawtactical.com/ar_foldi..._m_p/99312.htm
    Actually sir it already did, my 5.56 build has it & thatís the first thing I picked up for the next build before figuring out the caliber.

    Appreciate that though


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    Quote Originally Posted by HardToHandle View Post
    11B- I would prefer shooting a 9mm any day of the week over a 5.56. The blast is just so much lower that the recoil differences do not matter. My guess is your wife, even petite, would enjoy less blast vs. a bit more recoil. The 9mm recoil impulse is also different, arguably a longer length with more slam on the back end when the bolt closes.

    Ron3 - the blowback on a Kel-Tec Sub2000 is always unpleasant and I agree the least comfortable option. Not something I would inflict on a loved one, esp. my wife. I havenít shot the new Ruger yet.
    Thatís what I was thinking, the 9 in in comparison out of an AR is essentially a really large pistol, making it more manageable

    On another note does Kelley make anything thatís comfortable(rhetorical question)?


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    I say it depends on your needs. I have an AR pistol in 9mm w/4" barrel (Colt Smg pattern) and and a 5.56 AR pistol with a 10" barrel.

    They're both fun, and while the 9mm AR pistol doesn't ballistically do anything any of my other 9mm pistols do, for me it's still quite a bit more accurate at 25 yards & beyond than a handgun, and easy to mount optics. I have other PCCs as well (Storm, Scorpion Evo, TNW ASR, High Point, Sub2k) and while the recoil management in a blowback AR isn't great, a single stage GI trigger is better than any of the other PCC triggers I've listed. With a Shockwave brace the recoil isn't uncomfortable, but mine has a 8.5 oz dedicated buffer and it's harder to do fast follow up shots. If we're talking possible suppression, I'd start with a Scorpion Evo instead.

    The 10" 5.56 pistol is more than accurate enough out to 100 yards, and while it's not much shorter or lighter than my 14.5" pinned lightweight middy with the stock collapsed, it's still a pistol. But I wouldn't want to fire it without any ear protection, indoors flash & concussion back to the shooter is much more noticeable than the 14.5" and both have A2 flash hiders.

    If you're looking for something to run Glock mags, I'd also recommend looking at a Roni STAB brace if you already have a Glock, I dropped a G32 (.357 sig) in one and was amazed at how much tighter my groups are at 25 yards with the Roni vs 7 yards without. The TNW ASRs also come in a pistol version, and while they're pricey at $700 vs an AR, I can go from 10mm to .357 sig with just a barrel swap by hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderson View Post
    I say it depends on your needs. I have an AR pistol in 9mm w/4" barrel (Colt Smg pattern) and and a 5.56 AR pistol with a 10" barrel.

    They're both fun, and while the 9mm AR pistol doesn't ballistically do anything any of my other 9mm pistols do, for me it's still quite a bit more accurate at 25 yards & beyond than a handgun, and easy to mount optics. I have other PCCs as well (Storm, Scorpion Evo, TNW ASR, High Point, Sub2k) and while the recoil management in a blowback AR isn't great, a single stage GI trigger is better than any of the other PCC triggers I've listed. With a Shockwave brace the recoil isn't uncomfortable, but mine has a 8.5 oz dedicated buffer and it's harder to do fast follow up shots. If we're talking possible suppression, I'd start with a Scorpion Evo instead.

    The 10" 5.56 pistol is more than accurate enough out to 100 yards, and while it's not much shorter or lighter than my 14.5" pinned lightweight middy with the stock collapsed, it's still a pistol. But I wouldn't want to fire it without any ear protection, indoors flash & concussion back to the shooter is much more noticeable than the 14.5" and both have A2 flash hiders.

    If you're looking for something to run Glock mags, I'd also recommend looking at a Roni STAB brace if you already have a Glock, I dropped a G32 (.357 sig) in one and was amazed at how much tighter my groups are at 25 yards with the Roni vs 7 yards without. The TNW ASRs also come in a pistol version, and while they're pricey at $700 vs an AR, I can go from 10mm to .357 sig with just a barrel swap by hand.
    Already have a Micro Roni just wanted a dedicated platform for her


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    Quote Originally Posted by BasedGymBro View Post
    This^
    Have one on my 7.5 and actually got one already for the next build likely the 9mm one we are discussing here


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    Also, have you considered blast-mitigation systems, things like Ferfrans CQD, Indian Creek BFD or similar? The idea is to channel the blast dead-ahead so it's not as bothersome to those behind or alongside the muzzle.
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    Home defense gun or a plinker?

    Some pretty cool AR9's on the market now. My AR9 is one of my favorite to shoot at the moment. Cheap ammo, small package, lightweight, fun all around, go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by revoa4 View Post
    Home defense gun or a plinker?

    Some pretty cool AR9's on the market now. My AR9 is one of my favorite to shoot at the moment. Cheap ammo, small package, lightweight, fun all around, go for it!
    Defense gun, perhaps even a trunk gun


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    Quote Originally Posted by 11BGrunt View Post
    Defense gun, perhaps even a trunk gun


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    My AR9 also pulls double duty for the wife at the house. Small package and pretty easier for her to manipulate and I prefer lower velocity rounds for our home defense weapons.

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    The pros are that you can travel with the guns loaded and not have to worry about crossing state lines with them. Also makes for a compact weapon that basically functions the same as an SBR without having to pay for the tax stamp. Either caliber will get just about any civilian through 99% of any realistic situations that might arise. Both are easily accurate out to 100 yards and the 556 will be able to reach out a little farther, but any shot you'd have to take at 100 yards probably wouldn't be justifiable in court anyway. 9mm has a bit more recoil due to the direct blow back but the 556 is extremely loud and has a big blast especially in any kind of confined area. I personally like AR's in pistol format over SBR format because for me, you don't really gain much by making it into an SBR. I think you would be well served with either in a pistol format.

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