Originally Posted by
ZGXtreme
He was certified as an Armed Security Guard by CLEET (our version of POST). CLEET is in such disarray as an organization there is discussion of disbanding it or transferring responsibilities to the Department of Public Safety (Highway Patrol).
Things have gotten so bad; at the state academy they no longer teach driving and no longer shoot and qualify with any long guns, pistols only. The place is a joke.
(Very blessed we have our own in-house academy!)
So to hear he was carded is not surprising.
I'm sorry to hear that CLEET is in such disarray.
I don't want to get into a peeing match about agencies, that isn't my intent.
I've been around training since 1979. In that time I've visited states that had the State Police or Highway Patrol running training.
Not saying this would be the case in Oklahoma, but in most of the examples I've seen the local LEO's get short shrift.
It's danged if you do and danged if you don't - if you intermix classes (which none that I know of currently do) you get more emphasis on highway patrol stuff (not just traffic - but agency specific stuff) that isn't relevant to the local LEO.
If you run separate classes then I believe there is a tendency for the staff to not give their best effort, or constantly remind the recruits they ain't HP. I've heard this from Troops who work at those Academies.
I think the best thing would be to run everyone through the same initial, say 9 weeks of training as a group, that way your Troopers, your Deputies, and your City Officers all have something in common. Maybe have an assigned basic class number and a graduation for 'Law Enforcement Core Competency Class #101.' Once again, this would give all officers in the state commonality and hopefully collegiality.
Then let the Troopers go on to their Agency's training and the other officers finish the State Academy's training. Then the final graduation and certification as LEO's.
I think one of CLEET's problems was funding, wasn't it? Probably politics was another, huh?
Last edited by 26 Inf; 05-26-18 at 18:32.
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