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    New Kalashnikov for Russian Forces

    Just say 'да'!

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...assault-rifles

    “New Kalashnikov rifles combine famous, battle-proven high reliability with modern ergonomics, increased hit probability and capabilities to effectively use all modern accessories, from red dot, night and IR sights to underbarrel grenade launchers, forward grips, lasers and flashlights, sound suppressors and more.

    AK-12 and AK-15 rifles share most of its arts and assemblies, with key differences being in the ammunition used. AK-12 is chambered for Russian Army standard issue 5.45×39 ammunition, while AK-15 is chambered for older, but still very popular 7.62×39 ammunition. “Kalashnikov” group also designed compact versions of both rifles, known as AK-12K and AK-12K, which are better suited for CQB use by Special Forces, or as Personal Defense Weapons for heavy armament and vehicle crews,” the Kalashnikov Group said in a press statement.

    The AK-12 and AK-15 specifications:
    Caliber: 5.45х39 (AK-12) or 7.62х39 (AK-15)

    Length, overall: 34-37 inches

    Length, shoulder stock folded: 27 inches

    Barrel length: 16.33 inches

    Weight, with empty magazine: 7.7 lbs

    Rate of fire: 700 rounds/min

    Magazine capacity: 30 rounds

    There is a cool pic and a video at the link.

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    Cheek weld? What's that?

    Seems a lot different than the AK-12 LAV did a video with a few years ago. I guess they have been busy.
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    I swear the Soviets have been copying everything the western world makes/does since the lend/lease act...
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    Omg still horrible ergonomics?
    Stock is way too low

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    Shit, so now the anti-gunners can call something an Ak15 and be right....

    Nice to see incorporation of top pic rail, interesting they went with AR-style sliding stock.....guy in video doesn't seem to be able to get much of a cheek weld with that RDS on there-not sure why they left it on a mount....
    Not sure why they call them "advanced" rifles though, it's a 74/47 in a new package with goodies that were previously add-ons built in...

    Also the comment section is... literal shit. Don't scroll down there for your own sanity... I can't believe so much of the same bullshit is STILL going around as fact. I ****ing hate the gun community sometimes...
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    Just why? I was hoping to see some of those sweet alpha-AK's that LAV got to see when he did that tour through Russia.
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    IMHO the Israeli Galil with rails is already beyond either design, but then again I'm not a tech head.

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    Looks like someone took a standard AK, threw on a Mugpul stock, Troy grip, Tapco handguard and a EoTech clone and called it "new". Lipstick on a Pig! I'm sure airsofters love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Glockster View Post
    IMHO the Israeli Galil with rails is already beyond either design, but then again I'm not a tech head.
    Just a heavy Valmet.
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    That thing needs an 8 inch cheek riser! LOL

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