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    Build Planning a His/Hers Set, M4 & C8 (Any Canadian C7/C8 SME's around?)

    Since the girlfriend's expressed an interest in shooting with me when visiting, I thought it might be a nice touch, instead of building up a set of perfectly matched M4's, to build hers as a Canadian C8 as a nod to her heritage. Do we have any C7/C8 experts around who can give me advice on this project? Right now, I'm thinking to go for "widest issued versions"--which as an aside means as much as I love that SOPMOD FSP URG's layout, the M4 is probably gonna be just a basic RAS. Are there any significant cosmetic differences between the C8SFW and C8A3 I need to be aware of?

    Current known/suspected component list for C8A3 clone project:
    • URG: Complete BCM C8SFW, with basic M4 handguards
    • Tri-rail around FSB: BCM
    • Lower: Any quality-brand (minimum Aero; would like Umbrella, but unlikely--GF's a huge Resident Evil fan, so UCWRG would add a "personal" touch)
    • Buffer/Stock Group: Geissele Super 42 or Vltor A5, with Brownells old-style CAR stock and green recoil pad
    • Grip: uncertain - Canadian issue has a battery compartment
    • Foregrip and rail mount: Cadex 622-000 green VFG, Cadex or GG&G handguard rail
    • LPK: one of the usual reputable brands
    • Ambi safety: any quality milspec
    • Ambi mag catch: Arms Unlimited (Norgon clone)

    Also, does anybody out there have a good match for that weird shade of green our northern neighbors use on their furniture?

    My half the set also has an unusual twist - since I can't use a rifle stock due to odd body shape and usually nestle stocks/braces into the crook of my elbow instead, I'm thinking to keep it Title 1 by using an SBM4 brace at the rear with an unpinned 14.5" URG as an "Other Title 1 Firearm"/so-called "megapistol." Is the juice worth the squeeze with this trade rather than "keep stock but extend barrel," and also am I correct in thinking that only SOCOM units get to play with SOPMOD toys and the most common version in-the-field is the RAS?

    M4 part list:
    • URG: Colt or FN take-off, 14.5" barrel; KAC M4 RAS
    • Lower: Any quality-brand (minimum Aero)
    • Buffer/Brace Group: Geissele Super 42 or Vltor A5, with FDE SBM4 brace
    • Grip: uncertain - I like the feel of FAB AG43, so would prefer something similar but actually used in the field. Ergo?
    • Foregrip: Grip-Pod
    • LPK: one of the usual reputable brands
    • Ambi safety: any quality milspec
    • Ambi mag catch: Arms Unlimited (Norgon clone)

    How much of a general-issue M4 gets FDE'ed in the field, and is there anything I'm missing on these two lists, or can anyone out there help fill in some of the blanks?
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    Refining the part list, and building it into a table...

    First, a reference image of the gun I'm trying to replicate direct from Colt Canada.


    Component M4 C8A3
    Upper Receiver Group BCM unpinned 14.5 M4, no handguard BCM C8SFW, plastic handguard
    Rail Systems KAC M4 RAS BCM Tri-Rail
    Cadex or GG&G snap-on handguard rail
    Front Sight KNS .052" Square FSP KNS .052" Square FSP
    Rear BUIS Matech 200-600m uncertain--need recommendation
    Bolt Carrier Group Toolcraft black-nitride Toolcraft black-nitride
    Charging Handle Milspec with Badger 249-02 latch Milspec
    Lower Receiver 7075-T6 EPL, machined by myself 7075-T6 EPL, machined by myself
    Buffer Tube Pistol, without "sabertube" collar Milspec 6-position
    Buffer System Geissele Super 42 Geissele Super 42
    Brace/Stock SBM4 Brace, FDE Brownells CAR
    Canadian-surplus green recoil pad or similar
    Fire Control Group ALG QMS ALG QMS
    Safety milspec ambi milspec ambi
    Mag Catch Arms Unlimited ambi Arms Unlimited ambi
    Grip undetermined ergo A2
    Foregrip Grip-Pod GPS-02 Cadex 622-000 OD
    Optic Trijicon ACOG or Aimpoint EoTech 552
    Furniture Finish FDE "Canadian Average Green"

    Questions:
    • Anyone out there have a good match for Canadian Average Green, or should I just slap a coat of Olive Drab on and call it good?
    • Is there anything on this side of the border that matches the Diemaco/Colt Canada BUIS? I know CC slaps Troys on consumer-sale models, but that's not mil-issue.
    • Given that these are Range Irons that would not be meant for CQB, are pushbutton, easy-push or easy-pull takedown pins worth the convenience they offer?
    You really have to ask why Conservatives have guns? Because Liberals block freeways, burn cities, throw Molotov cocktails, loot, turn over cop cars, and think this behavior is Socially Acceptable.
    --unknown, memed by user "KeepnitReel" at Northwest Firearms

    NRA Life Member (installment plan)

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