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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Krakatoa was huge and pretty sure the biggest eruption in recorded history. However, Pompeii and Herculanium are fascinating, especially given how much was preserved.
    A good read by Simon Winchester: https://www.amazon.com/Krakatoa-Worl.../dp/0060838590

    By the way, it is rebuilding and is now above water again, growing and erupting: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-deadlier.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinN4 View Post
    A good read by Simon Winchester: https://www.amazon.com/Krakatoa-Worl.../dp/0060838590

    By the way, it is rebuilding and is now above water again, growing and erupting: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-deadlier.html
    Most do. I wouldn't want to live near it for anything even though it will probably be another 1,000 years before it's actually a problem again. Also wouldn't want to live in Seattle with Rainer so close and somewhat due.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Most do. I wouldn't want to live near it for anything even though it will probably be another 1,000 years before it's actually a problem again. Also wouldn't want to live in Seattle with Rainer so close and somewhat due.
    As far as pyroclastic flows go I'm sure you've seen pics of the area surrounding Mount St. Helens. Forests levelled like some giant had swiped his hand across the Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    As far as pyroclastic flows go I'm sure you've seen pics of the area surrounding Mount St. Helens. Forests levelled like some giant had swiped his hand across the Earth.

    Nature can be a Bitch!
    Not to mention the station wagon with the family that made an honest effort but didn't quite pull it off. If I remember things correctly, their last moments were reported by another fleeing vehicle that did make it.

    There are things I just won't ever mess with and "Let's go look at the volcano that might erupt" is one of them. The event is just too big to know when you are too close. I remember watching the news when it finally went and had been seeing it on the news for about a week thinking "you people are nuts" when guys like Truman said "I've lived on this mountain all my life and it's never been a problem."

    I was still a kid and even I knew better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I remember watching the news when it finally went and had been seeing it on the news for about a week thinking "you people are nuts" when guys like Truman said "I've lived on this mountain all my life and it's never been a problem."

    I was still a kid and even I knew better.
    This kind of density never ceases to make me shake my head when these types of disasters happen. Like Larry Vickers says, "Big boy rules". It's why I have such a problem with the government spending billions to REBUILD areas prone to natural disasters. If you like living in Florida, fine, but don't expect me to foot the bill to rebuild your house after a hurricane, especially if you didn't purchase adequate insurance. I'll take my crappy Midwest weather over hurricanes, earthquakes, mudslides, forest fires, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance435 View Post
    This kind of density never ceases to make me shake my head when these types of disasters happen. Like Larry Vickers says, "Big boy rules". It's why I have such a problem with the government spending billions to REBUILD areas prone to natural disasters. If you like living in Florida, fine, but don't expect me to foot the bill to rebuild your house after a hurricane, especially if you didn't purchase adequate insurance. I'll take my crappy Midwest weather over hurricanes, earthquakes, mudslides, forest fires, etc.
    Honestly, we'd have no place safe then. The midwest has tornadoes, earthquakes, the SE gets hurricanes, the west has massive fires and earthquakes and the rest is desert. Go to far north and you get snow storms that can kill you. So while I agree people in the midwest shouldn't have to pay a "fee" to rebuild New Orleans, it still isn't practical to say nobody should live in New Orleans.

    Natural disasters happen everywhere. And eventually the Yellowstone Super Volcano will take out the entire country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    And eventually the Yellowstone Super Volcano will take out the entire country.
    http://fortune.com/2017/10/12/yellow...-supervolcano/ "Yellowstone Supervolcano Could Erupt Sooner Than We Thought."
    “It’s shocking how little time is required to take a volcanic system from being quiet and sitting there to the edge of an eruption,” Hannah Shamloo, a graduate student at Arizona State University who worked on the research, told The New York Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinN4 View Post
    http://fortune.com/2017/10/12/yellow...-supervolcano/ "Yellowstone Supervolcano Could Erupt Sooner Than We Thought."
    “It’s shocking how little time is required to take a volcanic system from being quiet and sitting there to the edge of an eruption,” Hannah Shamloo, a graduate student at Arizona State University who worked on the research, told The New York Times.
    Drill down to relieve pressure eh? Guess it's better than doing nothing.

    I live a little east of the ash-fall line from the last Yellowstone eruption, so in all likelihood I'd escape that part of the destruction. However, it's the long-term effects that'll get ya, i.e. no food production over time.

    I was surprised to see that they consider a big supervolcano eruption worse than an asteroid. There are some BIG friggin' rocks zipping around out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Honestly, we'd have no place safe then. The midwest has tornadoes, earthquakes, the SE gets hurricanes, the west has massive fires and earthquakes and the rest is desert. Go to far north and you get snow storms that can kill you. So while I agree people in the midwest shouldn't have to pay a "fee" to rebuild New Orleans, it still isn't practical to say nobody should live in New Orleans.

    Natural disasters happen everywhere. And eventually the Yellowstone Super Volcano will take out the entire country.
    I know - I agree, for the most part. It's the most egregious examples that really irk me, like entire regions of Florida that should never have been built up (and in doing so removed some of the natural protection for other areas), all because too many people want the "Florida" life. As I alluded to, if you want to live in these areas, fine, but you'd better insure yourself against the dangers, rather than expecting a government handout to help you rebuild. Yes, it is impractical to not allow anyone to live in NOLA, but the government shouldn't be actively encouraging people to rebuild in areas we know are going to be devastated again, ESPECIALLY if those same people were unwilling/unable to insure themselves.

    Much of the Midwest is only at very marginal risk of tornado damage. Knock on wood, but I can't think of the last really destructive tornado in my area for hundreds of miles within the last 50 years. I suppose there's some risk from the New Madrid fault, too, but I'm well out of the destructive modelling zones, other than perhaps broken windows. Yes, people hate our winters, but we've adapted to the point that except for your once-every-30-years dumping of a few feet of snow, they're not that disruptive. Minnesota has it down to a science.

    Back to Pompeii - there are 2 million people living in the Naples area now. If Vesuvius goes again, it'll make Pompeii look pretty tame in comparison. For a time, the Italian government offered pretty generous payouts (I'm going off of what my Pompeii guide told me) to folks who lived in the area of Vesuvius to relocate, especially after the last event in 1944. All they succeeded in doing was keeping people from rebuilding on Vesuvius itself (which only happened because they made it a national park), while Naples grew into the 3rd largest city in the country.

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