US servicemember killed, four wounded in Somalia

[ABNAK]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/polit...lty/index.html

Apparently were working with a group of Somali and Kenyan troops 350km SW of Mogadishu. Al Shabaab attacked with mortars and small arms.

RIP.

[bp7178]

Why send traffic to CNN's site so they can make money off of ads?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/08...n-somalia.html

[ABNAK]

Why send traffic to CNN's site so they can make money off of ads?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/08...n-somalia.html

Because when I posted it FOX didn't have it on their website. I know, I looked before I dared to post a CNN link. (heard about it on the radio today and Googled it when I came home)

[SteyrAUG]

Why are we even still in these shitholes? Hate to say it but Obama was doing something right when he was droning the crap out of everyone.

I know it's usually special forces and things like that but we need to knock off this joint coalition crap because it never works.

[Wake27]

Why are we even still in these shitholes? Hate to say it but Obama was doing something right when he was droning the crap out of everyone.

I know it's usually special forces and things like that but we need to knock off this joint coalition crap because it never works.

It is literally the job of SF.


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[vicious_cb]

Why are we even still in these shitholes? Hate to say it but Obama was doing something right when he was droning the crap out of everyone.

I know it's usually special forces and things like that but we need to knock off this joint coalition crap because it never works.

What do you mean? SOF forces have been doing this shit since Vietnam. Or would you rather let these countries become terrorist havens like pre 9-11 Afghanistan?

[Averageman]

What do you mean? SOF forces have been doing this shit since Vietnam. Or would you rather let these countries become terrorist havens like pre 9-11 Afghanistan?

Isn't Somalia already a terrorist haven?
If you ask for help clearing the terrorists out of an area, the support has to be in place to extract and provide indirect fires for covering the force on the ground.
I'm all for droning the crap out of these guys and then the host Nation provides everything necessary or available they have.
If we need more than what is available, we need to take another evaluation as in risk vs reward.
We've been unpleasantly surprised like this a couple of times now.
Do we need more hardware on the ground to support these missions or do the Nation's we send aid to need more commitment?

[WillBrink]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/polit...lty/index.html

Apparently were working with a group of Somali and Kenyan troops 350km SW of Mogadishu. Al Shabaab attacked with mortars and small arms.

RIP.

Hopefully an AC130 gets parked over Al Shabaab's location and pink mist the result.

[SteyrAUG]

What do you mean? SOF forces have been doing this shit since Vietnam. Or would you rather let these countries become terrorist havens like pre 9-11 Afghanistan?

I'd rather drone them to death or AC-130 the crap out of them than spend the lives of the people who are literally "the best" we can send. I understand that is where the bad people are but I simply don't know that it is worth the lives of any American soldier let alone the best ones we have.

And ironic that you mention 9-11 as the idea was born from us screwing around in Somalia and showing a lack or resolve following the Blackhawk Down incident. Were we not "nation building" in Somalia with Boutros Boutros, Al Quida might never have believed it possible to attack us in the way they did.

[WillBrink]

I'd rather drone them to death or AC-130 the crap out of them than spend the lives of the people who are literally "the best" we can send. I understand that is where the bad people are but I simply don't know that it is worth the lives of any American soldier let alone the best ones we have.

And ironic that you mention 9-11 as the idea was born from us screwing around in Somalia and showing a lack or resolve following the Blackhawk Down incident. Were we not "nation building" in Somalia with Boutros Boutros, Al Quida might never have believed it possible to attack us in the way they did.

Somalia was a proof of concept op for Al Quida who acted essentially as our SF do by advising the Somalis that if they gave the US a bloody nose, they would tuck tail and run. It was in essense an Al Quida op. I'm not sure of they had hands on part in the planning of the Black Hawk Down event, but it was Al Quida apparently that instructed the Somalis how to deal with the US, and the Clinton admin, true to form, pulled and ran just as Al Quida told them he would. Rumor has it their was a team of face shooters in bound to put OBL out of our misery when we knew exactly where he was as his camp via his phone, and were told to stand down last second as Clinton didn't have the balls to do it, and send missiles, which missed OBL mile a long shot. Had Clinton not been such a weak leader, OBL and his crew put down like rats by some meat eaters old school style, 9/11 likely never would have happened. 9/11 of course showed the world we are vulnerable to such things, and prior events showed if we responded at all, it was half assed at best. 9/11 finally poked the bear enough to get a real response, perhaps more than they bargained for. Now if we'd just stayed out of Iraq and focused on Al Quida...