InRange TV - Mud Test: FNH SCAR 17S

[RetroRevolver77]

Are you talking about this one?
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...e-controversy/

The SCAR was dropped from 8 feet onto hard concrete floor 7 times after it went through countless of other torture tests. The stock survive, the lower and magazine cracked, but overall I bet the rifle is still functional. I say it did pretty damn well in that test.

The original video showed it was pretty much broken but you couldn't really tell where because the video wasn't the best quality. I did see one poster on another board that had his entire rear trunnion start to shift along with the screws backing out just running the rifle suppressed. Maybe was getting to much pressure, so it may not even take a drop to push that bracket out of alignment. Just don't care for the design much at all and feel it could use some upgrades but it's close and they do balance well- at least that was my thoughts on the ones I had.

[morbidbattlecry]

Does the 17 still wreck optics like back in the day? Or did we find some sights that are ok to use on it?

[RetroRevolver77]

AKs are a joke.

The truth is, I wish we could design a weapon that was as overall reliable and durable as the AK. The SCAR could be that weapon but not until they upgrade the stock hinge assembly and the rear trunnion mounting system.

[PNorris]

Yeah, probably not very well built gun. Clearly, you could improve upon it. https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/commen...vegas_armorer/

Go to about the 8:09 mark. Say what! Yes, that is not military use, however, these are heavily used firearms. Funny, I have never heard of a single rear trunnion failure . . . EVER. At most some people had some slightly canted screws after changing the rear stock that only moved a certain amount and never beyond that. But hey, what does FN know.

[RHINOWSO]

95% of the people who fawn over these 'tests' have never left the bench or square range with their firearms.

Weapons are machines. Some do better in adverse conditions, some do worse.

But in general the user should endeavor to keep them clean(er) in order to increase the probability of continued function, regardless of what some hick in a cornfield does to a weapon they bought to get more YouTube 'likes' for Google advertising $$$$.

[TRSTNG]

95% of the people who fawn over these 'tests' have never left the bench or square range with their firearms.

Love it. So true. I hate all these bullshit videos.

[RetroRevolver77]

Yeah, probably not very well built gun. Clearly, you could improve upon it. https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/commen...vegas_armorer/

Go to about the 8:09 mark. Say what! Yes, that is not military use, however, these are heavily used firearms. Funny, I have never heard of a single rear trunnion failure . . . EVER. At most some people had some slightly canted screws after changing the rear stock that only moved a certain amount and never beyond that. But hey, what does FN know.

I guess we have different ideas of durability.

[vicious_cb]

Back to your regularly schedule programming of AK apologism.

The AK apologist has come to ruin another thread that has nothing to do with the AK.

[halmbarte]

The truth is, I wish we could design a weapon that was as overall reliable and durable as the AK. The SCAR could be that weapon but not until they upgrade the stock hinge assembly and the rear trunnion mounting system.

We did.

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[SteyrAUG]

95% of the people who fawn over these 'tests' have never left the bench or square range with their firearms.

Weapons are machines. Some do better in adverse conditions, some do worse.

But in general the user should endeavor to keep them clean(er) in order to increase the probability of continued function, regardless of what some hick in a cornfield does to a weapon they bought to get more YouTube 'likes' for Google advertising $$$$.

But if I ever gotta go all "Die Hard" in my living room I gotta make sure I have a fully vetted rifle that has survived the sandstorm test.

I used to look at tests, I remember in the 80s guys sinking an Uzi into motor oil then rolling it in beach sand and dumping a magazine. Made an impression but as noted it's Walter Mitty considerations for most people.

Now I buy firearms based upon who made them and their standard of production and QC. I have AKs because following a hurricane and doing 2 weeks without power I wasn't gonna stand in the rain with some of my Colts and HKs, not that they couldn't handle it but because they aren't disposable. Among other things, AKs like the Romy SAR 1 make a good "stand in the rain" gun that can survive a week or so of neglect with a simple wipe down.

For 99% of gun owners, the type and quality of flashlight / weapon light they choose will be far more important than how well their chosen rifle does in a mud wrestling contest.