Moving Away From The Slim 9mm Fad

[Mozart]

I don’t know man. The whole reason for carrying concealed in the first place is that “you never know”. To go along with that sentiment: “ Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.”

Well, suppose I’m in a situation where 2-3 armed robbers are working as a team? Suppose I have no choice but to engage an active shooter who’s loaded for war? “You never know”. Is my G43 with 8 rounds sufficient for that? Maybe, but I wouldn’t bet my life on it. Im starting to think the “Let’s get as small and thin as possible” fad in carry pistols isn’t the right mindset. Would my G43 be enough to stop 1 attacker? Likely, yes. But am I also failing to prepare and violating both “you never know” and “Better to have it and not need it . . . “? Likely, yes. I will never have advance notice that I’m about to be in a gunfight for my life. I won’t know if it’s one attacker or four. I won’t know how many rounds of HST it’s going to take to end a threat. I won’t know if I will successfully and quickly perform a reload under intense amounts of adrenaline.

All this to say: Is it ever a good idea to carry a tiny low capacity pistol? Will it be sufficient? What is their proper role in a gun collection? Should I carry my G19 by default and only dust off the G43 for those deep-concealment-is-necessary type of outings?

[markm]

I don't know... I'm reluctant to engage 2-3 armed robbers with any pistol.... unless I'm the target, have not choice, and I sense that their just booger brained, gang bangers with no apparent firearms skills.

[Budget]

I think there's probably a thread or two about this, but...
I think you should carry what you think you need. I'm in the same boat, I dont know that 8 rounds are enough, so I carry my 19, 90% of the time. I also have a spare mag, light, knife.

G26 is for range days, J frame for back up duty at work and a Smith Bodyguard for those days when I can't carry anything else. That's me. I've been labeled Tackleberry by some. So be it.

Your 43 that you're proficient with is far more important than any big gun you leave at home or in the car.

[Mean Bone]

Mozart, if magazine capacity is your only concern you may want to consider the SIG Sauer P365. While I have not shot one I have handled it and it is smaller than my S&W Shield yet the magazine holds 10 rounds. If you carry a full mag plus one in the chamber you've got 11 rounds. Their extended capacity mag holds 12 giving one 13 rounds if you carry your mags fully loaded.

As with many new firearms it had initial problems. Failure to go back into battery and the rear sight coming loose. Those seem to have been adequately addressed.

There's plenty of info on YouTube . . . enjoy.

[Arik]

Mozart, if magazine capacity is your only concern you may want to consider the SIG Sauer P365. While I have not shot one I have handled it and it is smaller than my S&W Shield yet the magazine holds 10 rounds. If you carry a full mag plus one in the chamber you've got 11 rounds. Their extended capacity mag holds 12 giving one 13 rounds if you carry your mags fully loaded.

As with many new firearms it had initial problems. Failure to go back into battery and the rear sight coming loose. Those seem to have been adequately addressed.

There's plenty of info on YouTube . . . enjoy.

There's still the problem of peening, firing pin dragging which causes broken firing pins and dead triggers and on top of that Sig is already on 365 2.0

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[HMM]

The probability is so low that I'll ever need to use mine that I don't think it matters. I carried a little Sig P238 for years with no spare mag. I got tired of lugging around a 1911 and switched to that. As soon as the browning 1911-380 came out I upgraded to that, still no spare mag. Earlier this year I bought a G19 only because I had built a 9mm AR that used glock mags. I just happened to luck up on a holster that concealed my G19 better than anything else that I have carried so now I'm carrying it. And I finally started carrying a spare mag too (yay me)...lol

I fought the glock craziness for a lot of years but I finally gave in. I've been eyeing a wilson combat 9mm 1911 so I may pick one up and carry it if I can find a holster that works as good as the raven concealment one for my glock.

[MegademiC]

Its not a fad(shouldnt be) its a niche. I carry a g19 w/19rd reload 90% of the time.
I drop the reliad on occassion and go with a shield 9 when i wear tucked in dress shirts.

Like anything else, situation dictates the gear.

[feedthemlead]

Accuracy improves at close range, with officers hitting their targets 37 percent of the time at distances of seven yards or less; at longer ranges, hit rates fall off sharply, to 23 percent.

About one-quarter of all accidental discharges occur while officers are “struggling with a subject.

[Corse]

The chances of needing a gun ever as the average ccw holder is pretty low. I think anything of adequate caliber is fine and would serve a trained user well. Of course more ammo can't hurt if you can carry it. If the P365 gets all the kinks worked out, it would be ideal I think. It has a good ammo capacity and a great size for ccw.

[26 Inf]

Accuracy improves at close range, with officers hitting their targets 37 percent of the time at distances of seven yards or less; at longer ranges, hit rates fall off sharply, to 23 percent.

About one-quarter of all accidental discharges occur while officers are “struggling with a subject.

Actually accuracy doesn't increase, the results of mistakes in marksmanship are less magnified. Everyone's a gunfighter at 7 yards.