I for one think we should be running normal bombing and drone campaigns against the cartels. At least make it hard on them.
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May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one
How much money moves from the Cartel's to the Politicians?
There are likely more than a few Candidate's fully funded by them.
However, it would seem the numbers of illegal crossers aren't coming from, but rather through Mexico.
How much of this works in the favour of the Cartel's is questionable, but every minute, every dollar we spend messing with these so called "refugees" were not stopping dope coming in to the Country.
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To argue with a person who renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. ~ Thomas Paine
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Maybe we should accomplish that in Los Angeles, Chicago and New York before we start deluding ourselves with notions of gang free Mexico. I think our best viable option is containment. We simply aren't willing to do what would be necessary to eliminate Mexican and South American cartels and even if we were willing, it would make Afghanistan and Iraq look like a joke.
If we started a real "war on drugs" and took it to enemy lands, well funded and American trained special forces would make Al Quida and ISIS look like Antifa. We can't even defeat Saudi oil funded fundamentalists, can you imagine if we went up against cocaine and heroin funded cartels and their private militias?
It would be a never ending shit storm with and endless supply of shit. Would we really want to spend the lives in the special forces community on a fundamentally unachievable goal? Our time would be better spent nation building in Somalia. At least there we can genuinely kick ass if we ever decided to.
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This strategy has my vote. Mexico is a failed state. They rely on exporting citizens more than non-human natural resources like oil. They admit they don't even want to try to make their country safe for families. If we REALLY CARED about Mexicans, the kindest thing we could do is take over their country and establish order and safe commerce and democracy.
Get rid of cartels by legalizing drugs and let Proctor and Gamble, Johnson & Johnson be the distributors of known quality product at market competitive prices.
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It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! ... Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry in an address at St. John’s Church, Richmond, Virginia, on March 23, 1775.
Thank God it'll never happen 'cause I see some people here wishing for some crazy things. Who the hell wants Mexico? Like Steyr said, containment is the best policy. Use force judiciously if and when necessary; what're they gonna do? Make the border like the DMZ, sealed tight as a drum. NO ONE gets across. We have drones out the wazoo so 24/7 coverage of attempts to cross should be detectable. If the cartels make noise a Hellfire up their leadership's ass in the middle of the night would tamp things down (it isn't like we don't know who their leadership is I'm sure). Right now they only face the "wrath" of a corrupt, inept Mexican government. They would be facing REAL wrath from us.
Again, isolate and seal off, and let them rot from within. NO ONE crosses to escape, they stew in their own mess. Force if necessary.
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