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Thread: Mexican Pres Candidate says, "Flood the US with immigrants"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honu View Post
    I said we take over Mexico work our way down country by country cleaning out the gangs etc.. to the Canal so the Panama Canal
    Oh, I missed that.
    To be honest, from everything Ive seen, Costa Rica, and Panama are pretty good (and Belize?).
    Honduras, San Salvador, and Nicaragua have major issues.

    Panama seems to have tighter immigration than we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Maybe we should accomplish that in Los Angeles, Chicago and New York before we start deluding ourselves with notions of gang free Mexico. I think our best viable option is containment. We simply aren't willing to do what would be necessary to eliminate Mexican and South American cartels and even if we were willing, it would make Afghanistan and Iraq look like a joke.

    If we started a real "war on drugs" and took it to enemy lands, well funded and American trained special forces would make Al Quida and ISIS look like Antifa. We can't even defeat Saudi oil funded fundamentalists, can you imagine if we went up against cocaine and heroin funded cartels and their private militias?

    It would be a never ending shit storm with and endless supply of shit. Would we really want to spend the lives in the special forces community on a fundamentally unachievable goal? Our time would be better spent nation building in Somalia. At least there we can genuinely kick ass if we ever decided to.
    agree more of a joke since the left thinks that is what we do so do what they think we do

    also those Spanish that cry we stole their country ? hmmmm guess they do not remember their own history when they stole it from the Mayan and Aztecs killed enslaved them so just return the favor

    so more tongue in cheek for sure

    war on drugs will never happen a bit like asking the wolf to look into who is eating the sheep

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Thank God it'll never happen 'cause I see some people here wishing for some crazy things. Who the hell wants Mexico? Like Steyr said, containment is the best policy. Use force judiciously if and when necessary; what're they gonna do? Make the border like the DMZ, sealed tight as a drum. NO ONE gets across. We have drones out the wazoo so 24/7 coverage of attempts to cross should be detectable. If the cartels make noise a Hellfire up their leadership's ass in the middle of the night would tamp things down (it isn't like we don't know who their leadership is I'm sure). Right now they only face the "wrath" of a corrupt, inept Mexican government. They would be facing REAL wrath from us.

    Again, isolate and seal off, and let them rot from within. NO ONE crosses to escape, they stew in their own mess. Force if necessary.
    again tongue in cheek to take over

    but Guatemala and some of the areas on Mexico coast are insane beautiful compared to what we have here so would be great to have those options in our country

    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    To be honest, from everything Ive seen, Costa Rica, and Panama are pretty good (and Belize?).
    Honduras, San Salvador, and Nicaragua have major issues.

    Panama seems to have tighter immigration than we do.
    I lived in Honduras (Bay Islands Utila) for a year teaching scuba and loved it spent a month back packing Guatemala etc.. freaking most amazing beautiful country great people like here get away from the corrupt cities and so on but sadly the place is so full of criminals everywhere these days from cities to country with road bandits and so on


    its so sad cause they had so much potential for tourism but corruption of course has been there since the Spanish took it all over and that is the root cause

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    Someone should spread a rumor that he’s going to go about taking down the cartels. Problem will solve itself quicker than a Hillary leaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honu View Post
    agree more of a joke since the left thinks that is what we do so do what they think we do

    also those Spanish that cry we stole their country ? hmmmm guess they do not remember their own history when they stole it from the Mayan and Aztecs killed enslaved them so just return the favor

    so more tongue in cheek for sure

    war on drugs will never happen a bit like asking the wolf to look into who is eating the sheep
    Gotcha. Yeah it's always hilarious to hear people talk of a US land snatch with regard to the southwest. They are actually speaking the LANGUAGE of those who conquered them and we acquired the land when WE defeated Spain. So we basically liberated the inhabitants of the area from those who invaded their lands and replaced their culture and sat as an occupying force for centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honu View Post
    again tongue in cheek to take over

    but Guatemala and some of the areas on Mexico coast are insane beautiful compared to what we have here so would be great to have those options in our country
    Just like nothing in Africa from diamonds to gold is worth the effort of being there, nothing in Mexico is worth the effort currently. Once upon a time it was safe enough for tourism but when we went after the Colombians they simply moved operations to Mexico making it the next narco state. Add to that their world leader status as professional kidnappers and I can't think of anything that would make me want to go to Mexico.

    We need to void NAFTA and reestablish those industries back in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinN4 View Post
    Seems to me that call to flood the border is a justifiable reason to put armed troops on the border, and I don't mean just NG.
    I always thought this would work and otherwise wouldn’t cost us much of anything more than we already spend;

    Instead of sending Marine BNs to 29 Stumps for CAX or whatever it’s called now... put em on the border. Just a reallocation of personnel and more lifelike training. Gives the ground guys, the logistics guys, and the air wing solid experience working together in defense of our border.

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    I didn't know exactly where to put this, but I thought it relevant;
    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...or-soft-spots/
    Smugglers are using video cameras and small drones to spot vulnerabilities along the U.S.-Mexico border, and the Department of Homeland Security is struggling to stop them.
    Reports of unmanned aircraft flying along the Southwest border have spiked in recent months, with more than three dozen sightings since October, when the current fiscal year began. That data point is on a course to quadruple from the previous year, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, where officials say they are concerned that criminal groups are using the aircraft for surveillance while seeking paths to traffic drugs and other illicit material into the United States.
    While most drones are believed to be flying surveillance missions, at least one made it across the U.S. border carrying drugs worth tens of thousands of dollars. In January, a 25-year-old man was sentenced to 12 years in prison for flying a drone over a fence near the bustling checkpoint between San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. The unmanned aircraft was carrying a plastic bag packed with 13 pounds of methamphetamine.
    Since 2011, traffickers have made at least 562 illicit flights across the U.S. border in ultralight aircraft such as helicopters, single-engine planes or gyrocopters, Gabris said. Those pilots often fly their aircraft just above the tree line in rugged areas, making it difficult for border agents to detect or track them. The aircraft typically carry about 200 pounds worth of drugs, according to a 2017 Government Accountability Office report warning about the flexible smuggling method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I didn't know exactly where to put this, but I thought it relevant;
    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...or-soft-spots/
    Smugglers are using video cameras and small drones to spot vulnerabilities along the U.S.-Mexico border, and the Department of Homeland Security is struggling to stop them.
    Reports of unmanned aircraft flying along the Southwest border have spiked in recent months, with more than three dozen sightings since October, when the current fiscal year began. That data point is on a course to quadruple from the previous year, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, where officials say they are concerned that criminal groups are using the aircraft for surveillance while seeking paths to traffic drugs and other illicit material into the United States.
    While most drones are believed to be flying surveillance missions, at least one made it across the U.S. border carrying drugs worth tens of thousands of dollars. In January, a 25-year-old man was sentenced to 12 years in prison for flying a drone over a fence near the bustling checkpoint between San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. The unmanned aircraft was carrying a plastic bag packed with 13 pounds of methamphetamine.
    Since 2011, traffickers have made at least 562 illicit flights across the U.S. border in ultralight aircraft such as helicopters, single-engine planes or gyrocopters, Gabris said. Those pilots often fly their aircraft just above the tree line in rugged areas, making it difficult for border agents to detect or track them. The aircraft typically carry about 200 pounds worth of drugs, according to a 2017 Government Accountability Office report warning about the flexible smuggling method.
    Sounds like we need to have an open season on drones in that area, unlimited bag limit.
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    Go to the 2:45 mark and hold on to your seat.
    110 political assassinations since the beginning of the political season.
    Yeah, just keep that crap down there, we have enough malarkey.

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