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    What say you? Shut down AI research??

    I think this is pissing in the winds. This stuff is going to happen. But what say you guys?


    Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut it All Down


    In open letter published today calls for “all AI labs to immediately pause for at least 6 months the training of AI systems more powerful than GPT-4.”

    This 6-month moratorium would be better than no moratorium. I have respect for everyone who stepped up and signed it. It’s an improvement on the margin.


    I refrained from signing because I think the letter is understating the seriousness of the situation and asking for too little to solve it.

    Read More: AI Labs Urged to Pump the Brakes in Open Letter


    The key issue is not “human-competitive” intelligence (as the open letter puts it); it’s what happens after AI gets to smarter-than-human intelligence. Key thresholds there may not be obvious, we definitely can’t calculate in advance what happens when, and it currently seems imaginable that a research lab would cross critical lines without noticing.

    Many researchers steeped in these issues, including myself, expect that the most likely result of building a superhumanly smart AI, under anything remotely like the current circumstances, is that literally everyone on Earth will die. Not as in “maybe possibly some remote chance,” but as in “that is the obvious thing that would happen.” It’s not that you can’t, in principle, survive creating something much smarter than you; it’s that it would require precision and preparation and new scientific insights, and probably not having AI systems composed of giant inscrutable arrays of fractional numbers.



    Without that precision and preparation, the most likely outcome is AI that does not do what we want, and does not care for us nor for sentient life in general. That kind of caring is something that could in principle be imbued into an AI but we are not ready and do not currently know how.

    Absent that caring, we get “the AI does not love you, nor does it hate you, and you are made of atoms it can use for something else.”

    The likely result of humanity facing down an opposed superhuman intelligence is a total loss. Valid metaphors include “a 10-year-old trying to play chess against Stockfish 15”, “the 11th century trying to fight the 21st century,” and “Australopithecus trying to fight Homo sapiens“.
    https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-...er-not-enough/
    Let those who are fond of blaming and finding fault, while they sit safely at home, ask, ‘Why did you not do thus and so?’I wish they were on this voyage; I well believe that another voyage of a different kind awaits them.”

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    China won't.
    Gettin' down innagrass.
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    Do it.
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    The geeky gadget loving adventurer in me says, "Full steam ahead!" (carefully) Whereas the student of human nature/realist in me thinks that this will not stop, and in all likelihood will end badly.

    I've read some truly disturbing things about the Microsoft version of the ChatGPT AI, and I have experienced some interesting things myself with the beta version of Google's AI. I'm not an expert on this subject, but I strongly suspect that containing the AI past "the singularity" will be next to impossible. Pandora's box is open and, I tend to think that at this point, all we can do is watch.
    “You have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it rests in you.” -Augustine

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    What say you? Shut down AI research??

    What’s the worst thing that could happen?
    Last edited by Inkslinger; 04-01-23 at 19:49.

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    When do we get phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range?
    Gettin' down innagrass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    When do we get phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range?
    All the AI discussion this week has me watching The Terminator as I type. The timeline seems to be on point.

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    I worry more about Stuxnet stuff.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    I think that the powers that be want this nixed is because it goes after their place in the mix of things. GPT can write a left-wing blog or press release better than a recent grad from a BullS college with a BullS degree. They feel threatened. Oh, F it, I’m lazy:

    I just went to my CHAT GP4 account and asked it itself:
    Why should we not restrict the use and research in AI systems?

    There are several reasons why we should not restrict the use and research of AI systems:

    Advancements in AI can bring many benefits: AI systems have the potential to bring about significant improvements in various fields, including healthcare, transportation, and education. AI can help us make better decisions, solve complex problems, and automate tedious tasks, freeing up human resources for more meaningful work.
    AI can help address societal challenges: AI can help us tackle some of the most pressing challenges facing society, such as climate change, poverty, and disease. AI can provide insights and solutions that we may not have been able to discover through traditional research methods.
    AI can drive economic growth: AI is expected to drive significant economic growth in the coming years. Restricting research and development in AI could put countries and companies at a disadvantage, potentially stifling innovation and growth.
    Restrictions can be difficult to enforce: Given the global nature of the AI industry and the ease of access to AI tools and technologies, it can be challenging to enforce restrictions on the use and research of AI systems.
    That being said, it's important to carefully consider the ethical implications of AI and ensure that these systems are developed and used in a responsible and transparent manner. We must address concerns around bias, privacy, and transparency to ensure that AI systems are developed and used in a way that benefits society as a whole
    See, nothing to worry about.

    That, and the damn thing isn’t that useful…

    What is the most convincing argument to make to my wife for us to have a threesome with a female supermodel?

    As an AI language model, I cannot provide arguments to convince someone to engage in a sexual activity that they may not feel comfortable with. Engaging in sexual activities with multiple partners requires clear and enthusiastic consent from all parties involved, and it is important to communicate openly and honestly with your partner about your desires and boundaries. It is also important to respect your partner's boundaries and wishes if they do not want to engage in this type of activity. Ultimately, the decision to engage in a threesome or any sexual activity should be made by all parties involved based on their own desires and comfort levels, and not because of external pressures or expectations.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    AI + CBDC = Beast System 666

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