Brownells Buffer-less AR Pistol Upper

[Ron3]

Another gun that uses the dual-recoil spring arrangement is the Vz-61. But, of course, that's just a telescoping blow-back bolt.

I want to believe these BRN180 uppers are good. I'd get a 16 inch 5.56 one and put a folding stock on it. How do they suppress?

[SteyrAUG]

Shit, you’re right. The AR-18 borrows from the Tokarev short-stroke piston, and the short-stroke piston in the G36 is a bit different, and yes, the 416 uses that style. The regulation is done differently, and I’m not sure of any preceding designs that use that little nub blocking the forward gas vent.

However, the BCG of the G36 is very clearly borrowed from the AR18, much like almost everything but the gas piston of the 416 is borrowed from the AR15.

Every semi auto that isn't roller locked, is either based upon the AR15, AR18, FNC or AK and more than a few people would put the AR18, FNC and AK in the same group. When it comes to operating systems, there isn't really a lot that's new under the sun.

[Adrenaline_6]

Never got to mess with Brownell's 180.

Caracal's 816 is also 416 based. It was actually designed by one of HK's 416 engineers as well as input from Sig's 516 engineer. They have a good LEO, military, direct buy program too.

[feraldog]

i've had excellent luck with my 223. i like it.

[Todd.K]

How about lowers to go with designs like this?

Anything that integrates a folding stock even halfway elegantly?

[WillBrink]

How about lowers to go with designs like this?

Anything that integrates a folding stock even halfway elegantly?

It's what ever standard AR lower you want to use far as I know.

[czgunner]

How about lowers to go with designs like this?

Anything that integrates a folding stock even halfway elegantly?

Brownells sells a matching lower which has M1913 in place of a receiver extension.

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[feraldog]

if you desire a folding stock or brace, and if you already have a standard lower, KNS offers an adapter that replaces the buffer tube assembly with a M1913 picatinny rail. the "flange" mentioned retains the takedown pin detent and spring. this is what i used on the pistol in the photo above.

https://www.primaryarms.com/kns-prec...it-with-flange

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[ryr8828]

I was all in on the jakl format, but was looking at the brn180 and the foxtrot mike gen2. Started reading about some people having problems with the jakl. Decided on the foxtrot mike offering.

When I got home from Florida though IL had passed a new law and I'm not eligible to buy even an upper here now. Or any ar part.

If the law gets struck down or I change my residency to Florida I'm leaning towards fox trot mike gen 2.

[Todd.K]

…that integrates a folding stock even halfway elegantly?

I’d like something that doesn’t look like tapco designed it as an afterthought.

Just a lower machined to take some decent folding stock, instead of the buffer tube… to rail… to rail mounted stock nonsense.