Vortex vs Sig lpvo

[triggerjerk]

'Preciate yall. Makin good sense.

Thoughts/experiences on VIPER® PST™ GEN II
2-10X32 FFP? Does it draw good light and is reticle stout enough to use low light without illumination? Like getting close to sundown under trees in the southeastern deer woods/dark background? Especially towards 2x?

[Hank6046]

'Preciate yall. Makin good sense.

Thoughts/experiences on VIPER® PST™ GEN II
2-10X32 FFP? Does it draw good light and is reticle stout enough to use low light without illumination? Like getting close to sundown under trees in the southeastern deer woods/dark background? Especially towards 2x?

The issue with the Vortex Viper 2-10x in my personal opinion is the non- locking turrets and the weight. I say this because I've hunted with a SWFA that had non-locking turrets and have had my turrets move on me when out in the woods, and when you dramatically shoot over a deer it can become infuriating. The weight of it seems to be more than other rivals, I think the PA 2.5-10x is the best budget option for the 2-10x range, but someone on here probably can give you other options

[B Cart]

'Preciate yall. Makin good sense.

Thoughts/experiences on VIPER® PST™ GEN II
2-10X32 FFP? Does it draw good light and is reticle stout enough to use low light without illumination? Like getting close to sundown under trees in the southeastern deer woods/dark background? Especially towards 2x?

I run the Viper PST Gen II 2-10 on my 12" 6.5 Grendel coyote gun, and it's a great scope. It has good glass with clear sight picture, good eye relief, and good clarity and resolution even in low light (but I'm hunting in Utah, so maybe not as dark as your southeastern deer woods). The turret clicks are fairly crisp (not Razor crisp though), and i like that it has an illuminated reticle. Mine has held up to a lot of abuse, and i was surprised how practical the 2-10 mag range is.

[triggerjerk]

Ah, yes. Locking/non-locking turrets were of question, too.... and I'm actually happiest 2x low end as opposed to 1x.... Knobs pretty tight on my viper. Almost too tight. Sure wish I could actually hold that 2x10....

[dmd08]

I've considered the Gen II Viper PST 2-10 several times but I get stuck when I consider that for 1.9 more ounces I can step up to the 3-15x44.

[grizzman]

I’ve never taken Sig optics seriously and doubt I ever will. There are plenty of good other options. My PST 1-6s might be heavy and have reticles that don’t impress, but the glass is good and they work.

[triggerjerk]

Have always joked that if my viper 1-6 rig was slung when I fell out of the boat, I would sink scope first to the bottom....

But I never realized the loss of field of view by going from 1x to 2x.... Or is it fair to compare the 1-6 and 2-10 vipers due to construction differences?

Strike Eagle Field 1-8x24 ffp of View 113.6-14.1 ft/100 yds

Viper 1-6
Field of View 112.5-18.8 ft/100 yds

Viper 2-10 Field of View 58.3-11.7 ft/100 yds

Viper 3-15x44 ffp Field of View 41.2-8.6 ft/100 yds

Sig 1-10 fov at 100 120-12

[Hank6046]

Have always joked that if my viper 1-6 rig was slung when I fell out of the boat, I would sink scope first to the bottom....

But I never realized the loss of field of view by going from 1x to 2x.... Or is it fair to compare the 1-6 and 2-10 vipers due to construction differences?

Strike Eagle Field 1-8x24 ffp of View 113.6-14.1 ft/100 yds

Viper 1-6
Field of View 112.5-18.8 ft/100 yds

Viper 2-10 Field of View 58.3-11.7 ft/100 yds

Viper 3-15x44 ffp Field of View 41.2-8.6 ft/100 yds

Sig 1-10 fov at 100 120-12

If you're looking for the perfect optic, it just doesn't exist. I totally get it, I seem to own and run a variety on all my ARs, and the truth is that my favorite optic thus far is just a ACOG, mainly because it works, clear glass, and I haven't broken it yet.

[triggerjerk]

I hear you Hank6046! For this rifle, I was just hoping for 1 or 2 at low end, 8 or 10 at top end, stable focus throughout range, light gathering similar to my viper, a simple reticle like any mentioned so far, and locking or capped adjustment....

Looked through another brown Sig 1-6 sfp today at the range. Didn't notice yellow color in lens, but the color I noticed around the edge was not in the image. It was reduced diameter of tube against which the lens is seated. Nothing a little black magic marker wouldn't fix, but it lost some focus from 1 when moving to 6. Not acceptable (to me in a 1-6. 1-10, maybe), and I haven't noticed this on my viper...

If I could only afford that Nx8 mentioned elsewhere.....

Edit: In all fairness, maybe I shudda focused that Sig at 6x and turned it down to 1x to verify focus range.....

[Stickman]

I hear you Hank6046! For this rifle, I was just hoping for 1 or 2 at low end, 8 or 10 at top end, stable focus throughout range, light gathering similar to my viper, a simple reticle like any mentioned so far, and locking or capped adjustment....

Looked through another brown Sig 1-6 sfp today at the range. Didn't notice yellow color in lens, but the color I noticed around the edge was not in the image. It was reduced diameter of tube against which the lens is seated. Nothing a little black magic marker wouldn't fix, but it lost some focus from 1 when moving to 6. Not acceptable (to me in a 1-6. 1-10, maybe), and I haven't noticed this on my viper...

If I could only afford that Nx8 mentioned elsewhere.....

Edit: In all fairness, maybe I shudda focused that Sig at 6x and turned it down to 1x to verify focus range.....

I have a very good copy of the Vortex SE 1-8 FFP that is doing quite nicely for me. Many of my optics are used for a variety of weapons (different pics), but I locked down the Strike Eagle on my DD RIS 3 upper and plan on leaving it there. While I do prefer the Vortex Razor 1-6, it is obviously a much more expensive optic.


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