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    Peeked at this video on my phone. Pretty good explanations of stuff, but it mostly applies to Military operations. Great points and discussion, but not one thing they advocated would be something I'd adopt on a home defense gun.

    Maybe if civil unrest came about, I'd dust off a suppressor for night defense, but that's it. They did point out that what's good for Special Ops isn't necessarily good for other users.
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    Well, we always used a deep penetrating wall flood method of stronghold domination.... when we were dynamic. If we were slow and deliberate.... it's more of the taking your time and more slicing, etc..... though we still scoot across that threshhold when we encounter it. But S & D is a different animal... ESP with zero verbal allowed... all hand signals, etc. But great point..... shit's evolving.... even if it's only evolving in aspects and not the aggregate.

    good call, Aug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkland View Post
    I dunno, I'm still running a Larue 660 mount on my T1. Still works for me.
    Me too. I get what he's saying though. I'm going to have to think about this now, dammit. I haven't been able to shoot nearly enough lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StainlessSteelRat View Post
    Me too. I get what he's saying though. I'm going to have to think about this now, dammit. I haven't been able to shoot nearly enough lately.
    If I was starting a new, might make some changes based on more recent thinking on some things, but I'm not HSLD, not shooting enough, etc to justify the time and $ to be making major changes to mounts, etc. I'd rather put the $ into ammo and getting to the range more!
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    A high mount does not have to equal a chin weld.

    Life finds a way…



    I liked this enough after doing it on a test lower that I did something I never expected to do…. Broke the VC-3 and staking to remove an LMT MWS receiver extension from my MARS-L and replace with a Smoke Composites setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    A high mount does not have to equal a chin weld.

    Life finds a way…



    I liked this enough after doing it on a test lower that I did something I never expected to do…. Broke the VC-3 and staking to remove an LMT MWS receiver extension from my MARS-L and replace with a Smoke Composites setup.
    Nice guns Brother, but I couldn't reach the pedals on those rigs lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StainlessSteelRat View Post
    Me too. I get what he's saying though. I'm going to have to think about this now, dammit. I haven't been able to shoot nearly enough lately.
    I'm keeping my T1 and Larue mount as well....I watch GBRS group videos and they make sense for those that do it for a living. However, while at home I was experimenting with raising my head up and it does give you some additional side vision and awareness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Peeked at this video on my phone. Pretty good explanations of stuff, but it mostly applies to Military operations. Great points and discussion, but not one thing they advocated would be something I'd adopt on a home defense gun.

    Maybe if civil unrest came about, I'd dust off a suppressor for night defense, but that's it. They did point out that what's good for Special Ops isn't necessarily good for other users.
    Yep a LOT of it is apples to oranges. But I realized there are times when I probably would be shooting on the move and I tried it both ways and found the higher optics / heads up approach works best for me.

    But there are other times when we couldn't be more apart. I'm not running night or nods, I've learned I usually won't get the response time to gear up to that level. So unlike seals and delta, I'm almost completely weapon lights if it's happening after dark. I have a few rifles set up with NV scopes, but they aren't my HD rifles. And because we are talking about home defense and not assaulting a position, I can still run 10.3's and MP5s without much worry.

    It's just one area where I happened to already be sorta doing it already and it was best for me and the new stuff I was being shown was easily integrated. Since it all comes down to how well a given individual effectively puts rounds on target, your way probably does work best for you. Again...almost nothing is one size fits all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    If I was starting a new, might make some changes based on more recent thinking on some things, but I'm not HSLD, not shooting enough, etc to justify the time and $ to be making major changes to mounts, etc. I'd rather put the $ into ammo and getting to the range more!
    This is actually kind of easy. Throw a rifle in your shoulder and walk down a hall with your optics. Can you do it comfortably while still seeing most of the things in front of you 180 from left to right? If yes, then your setup is fine. If not, fine tune until you can. Going from extreme low to extreme high or the other way around is unlikely to improve anything. If your optics co witness standard AR irons, you are probably close to the best middle ground possible. This is 5.56, not 12 ga. 3.5" magnums, it's possible to put just the bottom corner in your shoulder and not have to worry about recoil if you had to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Yep a LOT of it is apples to oranges. But I realized there are times when I probably would be shooting on the move and I tried it both ways and found the higher optics / heads up approach works best for me.
    As far as the snorkel optics go specifically. Their point was that with full gear and helmet it was better. Sounds logical.

    But I don't run that stuff as a civilian. The one tower optic gun we have is very weird feeling. I suppose I could become used to it like anything else. But I tried moveing through the house yesterday with a regular lower 1/3 and didn't feel like I had to lower my head when bringing the gun up on target.

    To me, the snorkel mounts are an effective thing for mil guys that's the new fad for everyone else. I've just seen so many ridiculous fads come and go in the last 30 years. 3 point slings? Remember that retarded shit?
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