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    Senate deal on immigration, foreign aid

    Kind of interesting. Why would you come up with some compromise and not include the House GOP in on it? The ‘deal’ seems like the typical DC deal, but frankly, not as ‘bad’ as I would have thought. Maybe that is a sign that the Dems are scared of this topic for the election. I more think that there must be something in there is worse than the press is reporting. The biggest thing seems to be this ‘trigger’ for more action. Is that a ‘good’ level, seems like ‘0’ would be a good level. Could that trigger level info be manipulated? Seems like we have laws. Enforce the laws. I wish we had the same level disrespect for NFA laws…. How about we stop enforcing the NFA and 68 laws when crime hits a certian level…
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Kind of interesting. Why would you come up with some compromise and not include the House GOP in on it? The ‘deal’ seems like the typical DC deal, but frankly, not as ‘bad’ as I would have thought. Maybe that is a sign that the Dems are scared of this topic for the election. I more think that there must be something in there is worse than the press is reporting. The biggest thing seems to be this ‘trigger’ for more action. Is that a ‘good’ level, seems like ‘0’ would be a good level. Could that trigger level info be manipulated? Seems like we have laws. Enforce the laws. I wish we had the same level disrespect for NFA laws…. How about we stop enforcing the NFA and 68 laws when crime hits a certian level…
    Not bad?

    Here are the key changes included in the bill:

    — New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.

    If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.

    In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil View Post
    Not bad?

    Here are the key changes included in the bill:

    — New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.

    If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.

    In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years.
    That is the literal statutory equivalent of saying "stop, or I'll say stop again." What the everlovin' ****?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Entryteam View Post
    That is the literal statutory equivalent of saying "stop, or I'll say stop again." What the everlovin' ****?
    And on 100 days during the first year it's a version of olly olly oxen free. By the third year Federal authority only applies to half the days of the year. I can't think of a more bizarre bill, ever. Total and complete farce that only serves to exacerbate the the border crisis even further.
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    It's a ****ing joke. Biden caused this border crisis using executive action. It doesn't nedd a bill from congress to be fixed. The bill also has hidden ukrane funding in it.

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    They cannot pass a bill, any bill, without the house. And the house GOP has to sign off just for numbers, and there are too many who think this bill is garbage (and it is, for so many reasons). The left will portray the GOP as 'playing politics' and all. I think they need to get ahead and start publicizing why the bill is crap and a non-starter.

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    Anyone supporting this "deal" is on the wrong side. As all of you know, no bill is required to close the border and this is yet another UNIParty screwing of the American Taxpayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkland View Post
    The bill also has hidden ukrane funding in it.
    Gotta kick up 10% for the Big Guy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkland View Post
    It's a ****ing joke. Biden caused this border crisis using executive action. It doesn't nedd a bill from congress to be fixed. The bill also has hidden ukrane funding in it.
    Yeah, that's a pretty common "carrot" to get a bill considered.
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    I would say this is the last straw if the last wasn’t broken thousands of straws ago. **** these slime, they have zero interest in what is good for this country.

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