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    Quote Originally Posted by Entryteam View Post
    It falls, timeline wise, between the first two.
    I realize that. I would like a sequel because she takes off to the home planet of the engineers. I would like to know what she finds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I wanted to like Prometheus but some things are hard to take. For me the creator dissolving into human DNA in the water to create life, let alone human life was harder to take than some of the ridiculous "can't happen because physics won't allow it" gun nonsense that happens in films and we can't stand it.

    Just because Prometheus wasn't as crappy as the rest of the spin offs / sequels doesn't mean it was good. The only part that I really liked was when the Engineer killed Peter Weyland. The character of Elizabeth Shaw was completely uninteresting and the film was mostly about her. The whole dark ooze bioweapon which results in her pregnancy but kills Charlie Holloway was just idiotic. It was like they did a Marvel comics version of an Alien film where any premise, no matter how ridiculous is acceptable.

    Prometheus should have been the film that set things right and made up for the third and fourth Alien films (which were crap), but that didn't happen. I also think Aliens, the second film, was the best of the bunch because they were really able to expand the concept of the alien species.
    Well if you recall there was life on the planet!

    It addressed the idea of sacrifice....Prometheus "Prometheus was bound to a rock, and an eagle—the emblem of Zeus—was sent to eat his liver (in ancient Greece, the liver was thought to be the seat of human emotions). His liver would then grow back overnight, only to be eaten again the next day in an ongoing cycle".

    As good as the first was it was a great monster movie and rather thin plot when you get right down to it. Don't get me wrong it's one of my favorite movies!

    Again if we want to gripe about the franchise it was Covenant that failed to push the ball down the court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    This. Prometheus (2012) taught me that I can't even trust Ridley Scott. This one is basically a Disney films (since they own 21 Fox) and it was mostly filmed in Budapest by a director I've never even heard of.

    Was originally intended for Hulu but they thought it would do well in theaters, I'm not taking the bait. Might watch it when it finally is on Hulu if I get really, really bored.
    Precisely. I didn't bother seeing it until recently as so many told me not to bother. I was bored and figured "how bad could it be?" Wow, it was f-ing garbage, which surprised me. Didn't bother seeing Covenant as people said it's even worse than Prometheus! So, at this point, it's just the reality the franchise lives on the first two, and is being destroyed for the $ like so many others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I wanted to like Prometheus but some things are hard to take. For me the creator dissolving into human DNA in the water to create life, let alone human life was harder to take than some of the ridiculous "can't happen because physics won't allow it" gun nonsense that happens in films and we can't stand it.

    Just because Prometheus wasn't as crappy as the rest of the spin offs / sequels doesn't mean it was good. The only part that I really liked was when the Engineer killed Peter Weyland. The character of Elizabeth Shaw was completely uninteresting and the film was mostly about her. The whole dark ooze bioweapon which results in her pregnancy but kills Charlie Holloway was just idiotic. It was like they did a Marvel comics version of an Alien film where any premise, no matter how ridiculous is acceptable.

    Prometheus should have been the film that set things right and made up for the third and fourth Alien films (which were crap), but that didn't happen. I also think Aliens, the second film, was the best of the bunch because they were really able to expand the concept of the alien species.
    Pretty much feel the same towards Prometheus. I feel like it’s a decent Sci Fi movie but as an Alien movie it sucks.

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    There hasn't been a good Alien movie since Aliens. Video games and comics have done a much better job than any of the films.
    This. The most successful Alien sequels have always been in these mediums since the 80’s. When it comes to making a good Alien/s style story you are really stuck in one of two lanes, each one basically following the premise of the first two films: either an unstoppable, nearly invulnerable force; or overwhelming numbers of creature versus a small number of humans that are military or armed citizens with limited weapons and resources.
    Aliens also suffers from not being in the future or taking place on earth. The biggest fear of the stories allowing them to get there. A story with them on earth is already a “game over”,(no pun intended), scenario.

    I want this to work and the trailer does make me want to see this. However I’m jaded by the past abuses of franchises that I loved and I’m sure this will end up being more of the same. It does appear to be a mismash of both Alien and Aliens which could work really well or really bad. I am cautiously optimistic about it and will wait for reviews before deciding to see it or not.
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    So far ive enjoyed all Alien movies. I thought prometheus was very good although they did leave much of the story on the cutting room floor.
    I tried to follow the science but it simply was not there. I then followed the money, thats where i found the science.

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    I like the older Alien movies, hopefully they make good on this one, unlike Prometheus.

    But like all ultimate predator species concepts, if predators kill everything instantly, especially in the vastness of space, they die too. There is nothing left for any sustenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6 View Post
    I like the older Alien movies, hopefully they make good on this one, unlike Prometheus.

    But like all ultimate predator species concepts, if predators kill everything instantly, especially in the vastness of space, they die too. There is nothing left for any sustenance.
    I think the first film addressed that well, that is why there were no live aliens running around the planet. They only had what I assume were meant to be dormant eggs on the derelict ship. So we can assume an alien broke out of the operators body, found nothing else to eat (of course we never really saw them eat people, only kill them, so we don't know what it eats and then at the end of it's life cycle laid eggs.
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    I’m too young to have grown up with the Alien movies. I do remember commercials for Resurrection on the Scifi channel.

    I really liked Prometheus. I really didn’t like Covenant; that was the most disappointing movie in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I think the first film addressed that well, that is why there were no live aliens running around the planet. They only had what I assume were meant to be dormant eggs on the derelict ship. So we can assume an alien broke out of the operators body, found nothing else to eat (of course we never really saw them eat people, only kill them, so we don't know what it eats and then at the end of it's life cycle laid eggs.
    That's true, but where is the embryo getting it's energy from. The eggs energy isn't indefinite. A lone planet out in the middle of nowhere in that film's scenario could go decades or millennia before something turns up. Unless they absorb energy from the atmosphere itself, it's an unlikely scenario.

    Almost all horror creature films are like that though. A crapload of predators "waiting" for victims to arrive. That's not how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6 View Post
    That's true, but where is the embryo getting it's energy from. The eggs energy isn't indefinite. A lone planet out in the middle of nowhere in that film's scenario could go decades or millennia before something turns up. Unless they absorb energy from the atmosphere itself, it's an unlikely scenario.

    Almost all horror creature films are like that though. A crapload of predators "waiting" for victims to arrive. That's not how it works.
    We just have to accept some form of long term dormancy. And if nobody shows up answering a distress signal, I guess those eggs eventually die. Happens in nature all the time. Even in Aliens, once the colony produced a nest of them, depending on what they actually ate, the nest would have eventually died out leaving another field of eggs for anything else that is unfortunate enough to come along.
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