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Thread: I dont keep up with Rap, but it appears "P-Diddy" is screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Man they really did sound like kids just reading it off a sheet of paper didn't they? I think back to the rapid fire exchanges of lyrics with Run DMC and the unconventional deliveries of Rakim and early Chuck D and I wonder how it came to THAT.

    If any of their records, including Biggie and the rest, were released in the 80s they would have been laughed out of the room. But buying famous samples and simple rhymes for simple minds seems to have been the winning formula at the time.

    As for me I'll just keep listening to De La Soul and Stetsasonic.
    Remember when much of the rap was "fun"?

    More about dancing, ladies, being cool. Think "The Fat Boys" and much of the "Beastie Boys".

    I realize the hard stuff was around early, too, like Ice-T & others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post
    Remember when much of the rap was "fun"?

    More about dancing, ladies, being cool. Think "The Fat Boys" and much of the "Beastie Boys".

    I realize the hard stuff was around early, too, like Ice-T & others.
    That is what initially drew me in. The first stuff I listened to was things like Magic's Wand by Whodini, Jam On It by Newcleus, Rock Box by Run DMC and Space Cowboy by Jonzun Crew. Even Ice T's early stuff was party singles like "Reckless."
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Man they really did sound like kids just reading it off a sheet of paper didn't they? I think back to the rapid fire exchanges of lyrics with Run DMC and the unconventional deliveries of Rakim and early Chuck D and I wonder how it came to THAT.

    If any of their records, including Biggie and the rest, were released in the 80s they would have been laughed out of the room. But buying famous samples and simple rhymes for simple minds seems to have been the winning formula at the time.

    As for me I'll just keep listening to De La Soul and Stetsasonic.
    I couldn't agree more. Back then everybody had their own sound too. Now it seems like the goal is to sound just like everybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    That is what initially drew me in. The first stuff I listened to was things like Magic's Wand by Whodini, Jam On It by Newcleus, Rock Box by Run DMC and Space Cowboy by Jonzun Crew. Even Ice T's early stuff was party singles like "Reckless."
    Gangsta rap ruined it for me....old school rap is timeless..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pag23 View Post
    Gangsta rap ruined it for me....old school rap is timeless..
    At first I took it as first person story telling so I liked 6 N The Morning and stuff like that. But when it became "all gangster shit, all the time" and retards started actually shooting each other over east coast / west coast shit I tuned out. The only Tupac single I can listen to is California and that is mostly due to Roger Troutman being involved.

    Can't even listen to Dre and Snoop because of that nonsense and Dre is a brilliant performer / producer.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    At first I took it as first person story telling so I liked 6 N The Morning and stuff like that. But when it became "all gangster shit, all the time" and retards started actually shooting each other over east coast / west coast shit I tuned out. The only Tupac single I can listen to is California and that is mostly due to Roger Troutman being involved.

    Can't even listen to Dre and Snoop because of that nonsense and Dre is a brilliant performer / producer.
    Yup. When I heard "Rocket Fuel" from DJ Shadow featuring De la Soul a few years back, those guys haven't bent to change and kept their style and I was thinking, "man, this kind of reminds me of when hip hop was good and fun", and when originality and musical talent actually existed.

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    Referencing the " You aren't really old but" thread I guess I am really old when so many here like rap. Didn't like it when it started and still don't now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P2Vaircrewman View Post
    Referencing the " You aren't really old but" thread I guess I am really old when so many here like rap. Didn't like it when it started and still don't now.
    If you think about it, there were a couple of Rock Bands in the 60-80's who could have some very similar charges had this type of scrutiny been applied then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P2Vaircrewman View Post
    Referencing the " You aren't really old but" thread I guess I am really old when so many here like rap. Didn't like it when it started and still don't now.
    You don't have to like it. I like classic rock now, but then it was my older brothers music. And hair metal? Just couldn't get into Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, to me it was the same noise. There is music for everyone for a reason. I didn't hate grunge because I was old, I just thought most of it sucked. But there is an entire generation that loves that shit. For me, rap and early hip hop had a great sound and because I was moving in that direction with early 80s new wave like Gary Numan and Thomas Dolby it wasn't a huge crossover.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P2Vaircrewman View Post
    Referencing the " You aren't really old but" thread I guess I am really old when so many here like rap. Didn't like it when it started and still don't now.
    It's all personal preference. I don't like a lot of it, but the ones with great beats and some originality, I like. My taste in music also runs the gamut. I like a little bit of everything. Most of it is rock though.

    Just like women. If they are hot, they're hot...it doesn't matter what race, color, ethnicity. Again, a lot of what I think hot is, usually are predominantly in certain ethnicities, races, mixes, etc, but still..."Hot" runs the gamut.

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