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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I am going from memory, but I think Eagle Claw was overly complicated and then the really big problem was everyone wanted in on the act.
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    The issue with the helicopters if I remember correctly was that they were off of a ship and suffered from maintenance issues.But this failure resulted in the creation of the Night Stalkers.
    If I heard correctly, the different commanders involved in planning and preparation were not forthcoming with information needed to properly prepare for and execute the rescue operation. IIRC different steps should have been taken to prepare the aircraft involved in the operation. I am not an aviation rate, so I can't intelligently elaborate on what the Airdales complained about afterwards.

    I do believe the 160th SOAR was created as a result of the problems associated with the operation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    If I heard correctly, the different commanders involved in planning and preparation were not forthcoming with information needed to properly prepare for and execute the rescue operation. IIRC different steps should have been taken to prepare the aircraft involved in the operation. I am not an aviation rate, so I can't intelligently elaborate on what the Airdales complained about afterwards.

    I do believe the 160th SOAR was created as a result of the problems associated with the operation.
    In addition to Eagle Claw, I have read that Operation Urgent Fury (Grenada) also involved everyone wanting in on the action. Of course it was only 3+ years after the debacle at Desert One so there were still some hiccups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    In addition to Eagle Claw, I have read that Operation Urgent Fury (Grenada) also involved everyone wanting in on the action. Of course it was only 3+ years after the debacle at Desert One so there were still some hiccups.
    Even as late as 1989 we were making the same kind of mistakes. Mostly because of their fame for "getting it done", NSW team 4 was tasked with taking Punta Paitilla Airport during Just Cause when really it was the kind of thing Rangers excel at. Add in some basic miscommunication on the ground and a bunch of guys got caught in the open with unfortunate results.
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