Correct me if I am wrong but these are still made from the outsourced parts are they not? So what is so special about them?
Correct me if I am wrong but these are still made from the outsourced parts are they not? So what is so special about them?
I think there milled slide and not stamped.
Oh - Just noticed you said new 228's
?????? I have no clue mow
Last edited by bgoode; 08-25-09 at 14:40.
Probably what M4 said, the rails.
I'm not interested in the railed option. I have wanted a P228 for the longest time. I was able to shoot one back in 1991 or 92, and I have wanted one ever since. I loved the overall design and the feel of the gun. The one I fired had a smooth trigger pull on it.
I know that rails are the future of handguns. But, I am always going to be looking for an older non-railed 228. I just wish that I had the funds right now for one. The older non-railed ones are not getting any cheaper.
There is nothing special about them, except that they are a reincarnation of a "discontinued" and long beloved SIG Sauer.
I have one. The only feature it possesses that I actually value over my fully German P228s is the Nitron finish on the slide, which is leagues ahead of the delicate bluing of the original P228s.
Parts in the new ones suck. Period.
The only other curious aspect of the new P228s is that some of them were marked "U.S. M11." Some retained the unique markings; others were cross-hatched out. Regardless, some hate 'em, others value the uniqueness of the markings.
The rail? I could care less, but its never been offered domestically on a P228.
Tim
Any chance of seeing the P225 reintroduced?
I'd be very, very surprised if that were to occur. While the last time I checked on SIG-Sauer's European website it was still catalogued and available as a law enforcement weapon, I find it hard to believe that there's been any actual new production for years, particularly since many, if not most of the states in Germany, and European LEOs that adopted it in the 1970s/1980s are phasing them out due to the end of their organizationally forecasted lifespan, and moving on to other, more modern (read higher capacity, with more ergonomic adjustments available, primarily polymer) pistols.
While I have a P225, and tremendously appreciate it, and enjoy shooting it (albeit not very often in the past year), I think that SIG has the market niche it occupies pretty well covered by the P228/P229/P239/P250; I just don't see it as being particularly feasible for them to re-introduce the P225-but I've certainly been wrong before.
If it would happen, I suspect that SIG-Sauer would time it to occur subsequent to the market being relatively thoroughly flushed of the surplus P6s. In the meantime, I think that those desirous of a P225 are best off taking advantage of the low-priced P6s, and sinking some money into replacing their mainsprings, recoil springs, and magazines (which are now still available from SIG-Sauer, albeit a bit steeply priced).
Best, Jon
Last edited by JonInWA; 08-25-09 at 19:35.
Jon's logic strikes me as sound.
You still see P6s in Polizei holsters throughout Germany, but new production for the commercial market doesn't really make much sense. It would be a bit like HK tooling up to make another run of original (non-M series) P7s for importation: given the secondary market availability, why would the average shooter go back to paying $1,200 for a pistol that can now be found for half-that?
The number of surplus guns available -- most in excellent condition -- makes new production unlikely, but it also makes getting a P225 of your own more affordable than ever. Personally, I would invest in a couple of ex-Polizei P6s for the same money as a LNIB P225, and never look back. Make a couple of the aforementioned spring changes, and you're easily in business for the next couple of decades. It's truly a win-win proposition.
AC
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What is special about it? Nothing. It is harder to find holsters for, none of your old P228/229 holsters fit because of the rails and reshaped trigger guard. It is a left over parts gun, nothing more. If you want a P228, which is a fine pistol, find a used classic model or a SIG refurbished, it'll be a better SIG than this parts bin special.
I recall reading the new 228's were 100% German and imported, and dumped in the USA due to the P30 gobbling up some fat contracts in Europe.
Anyone know the full scoop?
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