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    Easy way to zero your rifle

    Print this target. Aim for the bottom of the triangle at 25 yards. Group your shots in the circle for a 100 yard zero.


    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86...5MeterZero.jpg

    I have found this to be very useful.
    Last edited by signal4l; 08-31-09 at 20:49. Reason: link

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    Interesting and definitely thanks. My buddy had one somewhat similar the last time I zero'd my rifle. It had a black square with a thin white X crossing through it. Below a inch or so was a small black dot about the size of a nickle maybe. Basically you aimed right at the center of the white X crossing in the black square and the POI should be in the dot below. We then went back and verified it from 50 and was dead on (didn't have a chance to verify at 200). If anybody knows where to find a printout of that target it would be much appreciated.

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    That looks like a knock-off mod of the Helwink/Chudwin 25yd sight-in/100rd Zero Target:
    http://www.lawofficer.com/Images/100...m22-158738.pdf
    Last edited by nickdrak; 08-31-09 at 23:38.

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    Defenitely one of the Chudwiun versions. I actually prefer the one you posted.

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    Is zeroing a little low at 25 yards that difficult to begin with? Wouldn't any gridded target work, just hold on the center and get your POI where you want it (count squares) based on what your absolute zero need is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Is zeroing a little low at 25 yards that difficult to begin with? Wouldn't any gridded target work, just hold on the center and get your POI where you want it (count squares) based on what your absolute zero need is?
    Rob,

    That target was designed for LE personnel when zeroing their patrol rifles. While the majority of the guys I work with "Get it" during the zeroing portion of the training, theres always a few who dont at first. Every little bit of assistance helps with those few, and these targets definately help simplify the process.

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    I support any method that gets people to understand that POA/POI at 25 is not an acceptable method of expedient zeroing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickdrak View Post
    That looks like a knock-off mod of the Helwink/Chudwin 25yd sight-in/100rd Zero Target:
    http://www.lawofficer.com/Images/100...m22-158738.pdf
    I want to make sure I have this straight.

    Looking at the link you provided.

    I aim at the bottom of the triangle type thing from 25yds and the bullet impact is in the center of the small circle for a 100yd zero, the top of the small circle for a 50yd zero and the bottom of the triangle type thing for a 25yd zero.


    I would then go out to whatever distance zero i chose(in my case 50yd) and i should confirm my zero.
    Im pretty sure im right.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenhyde View Post
    I want to make sure I have this straight.

    Looking at the link you provided.

    I aim at the bottom of the triangle type thing from 25yds and the bullet impact is in the center of the small circle for a 100yd zero, the top of the small circle for a 50yd zero and the bottom of the triangle type thing for a 25yd zero.


    I would then go out to whatever distance zero i chose(in my case 50yd) and i should confirm my zero.
    Im pretty sure im right.
    Thanks.
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    There's a Blackwater target very similar to that as well. I used to have a PDF of it. I think it looked like a reduced "E" with a small white block just below COM. You aimed COM and put the rounds in the white block and it was BZO for 100M.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickdrak View Post
    That looks like a knock-off mod of the Helwink/Chudwin 25yd sight-in/100rd Zero Target:
    http://www.lawofficer.com/Images/100...m22-158738.pdf
    So are the numbers on the target a MOA for windage and elevation? Why is the elevation ones so much farther apart than the windage?

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    Just remember to always verify at 100 afterwards or when you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcamp View Post
    So are the numbers on the target a MOA for windage and elevation? Why is the elevation ones so much farther apart than the windage?
    looks like number of clicks to adjust POI to me. front sight post clicks for elevation (approx 1/2" @25m per click) and rear sight windage knob clicks for windage (approx 3/16" per click @ 25m).

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    is this still available somewhere? the links are working....

    Also, is there a 200 yd zero version of this?

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    I've never seen that before. Looks pretty good. I may have to try it out soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilco View Post
    is this still available somewhere? the links are working....

    Also, is there a 200 yd zero version of this?
    http://www.mcgeedigitalmedia.com/arf...zerotarget.pdf


    For 200 yards, you want your POA/POI to be the same at 50 yards. Impact should be about an inch and a half high at 100 yards then back to near 0 at 200 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    I support any method that gets people to understand that POA/POI at 25 is not an acceptable method of expedient zeroing.
    Exactly. I would think people could understand holdover and used a gridded target, but if they get it this way, they are still getting it and that is all that matters.
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    Hate to admit it, but it took me a little while to think this through and understand. finally got it, but kept wondering - if its hitting low at 25, wouldn't it hit even lower at 100? Very cool - Thanks for the heads up - I'll be printing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruddyhair View Post
    Hate to admit it, but it took me a little while to think this through and understand. finally got it, but kept wondering - if its hitting low at 25, wouldn't it hit even lower at 100? Very cool - Thanks for the heads up - I'll be printing it.
    Negative, the bullet is still going up at 50 yards. See the image below:

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    gotcha - thanks

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