SBR Trust engraving question

[SonicKrack]

With all due respect, you know this because you've asked the ATF? Is this a legal issue that the trust isn't valid unless named letter for letter when writing the name on forms or documents? Inquiring minds want to know.

The posted information comes from personal experience as I have transfered 2 SBRs on Form 1 and 3 Suppressors using a Revocable Trust. The following thread in Silencertalk.com gives a more indepth debate on the issue.

http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43998

As I mentioned, just my .02 cents.

[RojasTKD]

I think that's not completely correct.

"John Doe NFA Revocable Living Trust"

can be engraved

"John Doe NFA Trust"

[SonicKrack]

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Called today. Spoke to a "specialist" named Janice. She told me it had to match exactly what was on your forms. She looked it up to be sure, and then said it definitely has to exactly match your forms.

Whatever you put down on section 3B and H of ATF FORM 1 should match the engraving on the lower.

[RojasTKD]

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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject:

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Called today. Spoke to a "specialist" named Janice. She told me it had to match exactly what was on your forms. She looked it up to be sure, and then said it definitely has to exactly match your forms.

Whatever you put down on section 3B and H of ATF FORM 1 should match the engraving on the lower.

Yeah I read that, Still disagree. Ask the same question to several ATF agents and you likely to get various answers. There are many Revocable Living Trust out there engraved "John Doe Trust".

Heck my Revocable Living Trust is refereed to as the My Name Trust in the trust document. A Trust is a trust weather it is a Revocable Living or other type.

[9mmkungfu]

Under "identifying markings" I put the abbreviated trust name. That is what it is engraved with.

[erik_]

I've been told by my ATF rep that it doesn't have to match as long as they've been made aware of the variance. I was directed to section 8.5.4 of the NFA handbook:

"8.5.4 Obtaining variances to the marking requirements. Requests for variances from the marking requirements should be submitted by letter to ATF’s Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) in duplicate. The requests should state the proposed variance and the reasons for the variance."

In any case, it's best to contact the ATF directly about any questions you may have. Anything posted on the internet regarding ATF/NFA regulations should be taken with salt. Ultimately it's up to the individual to make sure that he or she is in compliance with the law.

[SonicKrack]

Erik,

This is why I marked my SBRs with the exact wording of my trust. No headaches, no worries and the extra dollars for the extra letters was worth it.

[eodinert]

Just pick a name short enough to engrave on your gun... You can name your trust anything you'd like.

Since they started the 'send us your schedule a' shenanigans, I make a new trust for each stamp. Last one was the XXX Trust. If they want paperwork, I'll give them paperwork.