4th Generation Glock

[Littlelebowski]

Started a SIG E2 discussion as to keep this one on track

[PLCedeno]

Anyway, went over 3,000 rounds on both G4 G17's this weekend. Still no malfs of any kind. Sorry to disappoint.

Only the M&P Linebackers are disapointed. The rest of us are very happy.

[HK45]

Only the M&P Linebackers are disapointed. The rest of us are very happy.

I was a big M&P fan for awhile. Great pistol from a company that knows how to support their customers. Went back to Glock preferring the trigger and simplicity. Not that an M&P is all that complicated.

[C4IGrant]

Only the M&P Linebackers are disapointed. The rest of us are very happy.

That would ONLY be true if we "linebackers" wanted Glock's to fail. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Another, quality gun the market is a good thing as choices are what makes the world a better place.

What we "linebackers" have no interest in is if people believe that Glock's are perfect, have no issues (ever) and are the BEST pistol on the market.

If you notice in the M&P "issues" thread, we are discussing problems/concerns with the M&P. No fanboy BULLSHIT, just technical discussions on what is going on. I am providing details based on first hand knowledge and what S&W is tells me. No on is married to their M&P in that thread.

Imagine the horror if I started a thread about Glocks and all their issues. People would be butt hurt for weeks on end.

Seems like a double standard to me. To quote LAV; "But, what do I know."


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[C4IGrant]

I was a big M&P fan for awhile. Great pistol from a company that knows how to support their customers. Went back to Glock preferring the trigger and simplicity. Not that an M&P is all that complicated.

The Glock factory trigger owns the M&P trigger all day long. Why S&W CHOSE to do their trigger the way they did, no one knows.

Luckily for us now, APEX Tactical has come along and given us a GREAT trigger for the M&P.


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[HK45]

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What we "linebackers" have no interest in is if people believe that Glock's are perfect, have no issues (ever) and are the BEST pistol on the market.
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I have not seen anyone make such claims on this thread.

[Littlelebowski]

That would ONLY be true if we "linebackers" wanted Glock's to fail. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Another, quality gun the market is a good thing as choices are what makes the world a better place.

What we "linebackers" have no interest in is if people believe that Glock's are perfect, have no issues (ever) and are the BEST pistol on the market.

If you notice in the M&P "issues" thread, we are discussing problems/concerns with the M&P. No fanboy BULLSHIT, just technical discussions on what is going on. I am providing details based on first hand knowledge and what S&W is tells me. No on is married to their M&P in that thread.

Imagine the horror if I started a thread about Glocks and all their issues. People would be butt hurt for weeks on end.

Seems like a double standard to me. To quote LAV; "But, what do I know."


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I rather sincerely doubt people would do that regarding Glock problems. The issue people have is your own tone regarding the Glocks. If we could leave the all knowing tone out of things and keep it at a "just the facts" instead of "so and so said this and don't complain about me to the mods, you won't get anywhere!" stuff, folks wouldn't be complaining. Like it or not, that's what it is. Folks here are not afraid of the facts; that's why we come here.

[HK45]

Could not agree more.

[C4IGrant]

I rather sincerely doubt people would do that regarding Glock problems. The issue people have is your own tone regarding the Glocks. If we could leave the all knowing tone out of things and keep it at a "just the facts" instead of "so and so said this and don't complain about me to the mods, you won't get anywhere!" stuff, folks wouldn't be complaining. Like it or not, that's what it is. Folks here are not afraid of the facts; that's why we come here.

Really? Is that why the mods and staff on the forum have been hate mail about my posts in this thread? If they weren't concerned, they wouldn't be contacting them.

Remember that is ALWAYS a bad idea to ASSume "tone" on a forum. Many things can be read into printed words. It is always better to simply ask.

There are many here that are married to their gear/guns. They believe what the manufacturers tell them and will argue till the ends of the earth that their purchase was "the best."

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[C4IGrant]

I have not seen anyone make such claims on this thread.

You are right. No one has come out and said it, but many here believe in "Glock Perfection."

How can you tell? When we discussed limp wristing, people don't either believe it or down play it. Just look at Vickers post where he gave the GEN 4 Glocks a C- rating. People scrambled to validate their GEN 4 Glock purchase.


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