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Thread: Sig Sauer P226 Navy 50,000 rounds (update 04/14/2010)

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    Thanks Todd for the clarification. I remember when Laura was auctioning them off.
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    I have the opportunity to buy at dealer cost a P226 Blackwater Tactical.

    I have searched for opinions on these pistols from experience shooters who put thousands of rounds down range and not just your average plinker, but almost everything I have found on them is from plinkers and that includes the sigforum.

    I am sure, other than the bells and whistels, this model is still a P226 at heart. Does the P226 consistently perform anything like the OP's pistol or was that the golden egg in the box so to speak--I'm worried about rumblings I've heard that new Sigs with the alloy rails don't run or last anything like the older production models.

    Any input is welcome, and congrats to the OP for his awesome roundcount!!!

    "Addressing the problem of shootings by ban or confiscation of non-criminal's guns is like addressing the problem of rape by chopping off the Johnson of everyone who DIDN't rape anyone while not only leaving the rapists' equipment intact, but giving them free viagra to boot." --Me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddG View Post
    The original NSW guns offered to the public were supposed to be a limited run produced specifically to raise donations for the Special Operations Warrior Foundation. Dale McClellan of Special Tactical Services and I spent more than a year fighting uphill to make it happen. We even got the WARCOM JAG to sign off on it officially, giving us permission to use the SEAL Trident in advertising, etc.

    In the end, between the money raised from the sales and the money raised from auctioning off NSW0001 (thanks to Laura Ingraham and her radio show) the total donation was over $125,000.

    The NSW guns were exact copies of the then-current spec SIG was delivering to the U.S. Navy. It was a P226 in 9mm, no rail, with special finish on internal parts to provide superior corrosion resistance, and standard SIG sights. An anchor is engraved on the side of the slide to make the pistols more easily distinguishable from older carbon steel slide guns in NSW inventory. The guns came with three magazines. Because the guns were produced before the end of the AWB, the mags were 10rd instead of the 15rd mags with rubberized baseplates ... but otherwise the package was genuine.

    The gun also came with a letter of authenticity and a sweepstakes ticket. Six winners were flown to Virginia Beach for a 2-day "SEAL Team SIG" experience that included a tour of the Group Two facilities, a private briefing on current NSW capabilities and activities by the Group Two XO, and a day of pistol instruction provided by McClellan and Al Clark, both former SEALs.

    After the success of the project, SIG decided to continue selling guns with the anchor on them, calling them "NAVY" guns but without always using the Navy internals and without continuing to fulfill the commitment to the WARCOM JAG that part of the proceeds would go to SOWF.
    Color me surprised on that one. Slipping QC, crappy CS and tightfistedness of legendary proportions is what I've come to expect of Sig lately. I work in a gun shop and it is like pulling teeth to get something remedied by them. Not to mention the whole "we're only giving civilians one mag with their $900 gun"

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesprt View Post
    Color me surprised on that one. Slipping QC, crappy CS and tightfistedness of legendary proportions is what I've come to expect of Sig lately. I work in a gun shop and it is like pulling teeth to get something remedied by them. Not to mention the whole "we're only giving civilians one mag with their $900 gun"
    Congrats on 50K!

    SIG makes a gun for every minute of the day and their supply chain sucks.

    I think they started shipping two magazines again back in June. Problem is, it's a crap shoot when you order from a distributor because you don't know if your getting one mag or two. Don't even try to order direct because it won't be in stock or you will get the industry standard "they will be shipping in two weeks".

    Here's something to think about... If a dealer places an order with SIG, they get a 6% discount if they settle with a credit card. WTFO

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    Quote Originally Posted by winfield813@yahoo.com View Post
    I am sure, other than the bells and whistels, this model is still a P226 at heart. Does the P226 consistently perform anything like the OP's pistol or was that the golden egg in the box so to speak--I'm worried about rumblings I've heard that new Sigs with the alloy rails don't run or last anything like the older production models.

    Any input is welcome, and congrats to the OP for his awesome roundcount!!!
    It should be noted off the bat that for any handgun to go 50,000 rounds with no breakages and to look that good is pretty fuggin' rare. It's not something you should expect every weapon you pick up off the shelf to do.

    While Sig has experienced a decline in the quality of their product over the last few years, you have to remember that they were falling from a pretty high standard to begin with. The P226 is a weapon Sig has had out there for a long time in police and military service, and odds are that most of the P226es you can find on the market will exceed the needs of most shooters. I don't know if the BW marked guns include any internal enhancements or if the differences are merely cosmetic in nature, but odds are that if you really want one it will probably be a pretty good handgun by any reasonable measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Wayne777 View Post
    It should be noted off the bat that for any handgun to go 50,000 rounds with no breakages and to look that good is pretty fuggin' rare. It's not something you should expect every weapon you pick up off the shelf to do.

    While Sig has experienced a decline in the quality of their product over the last few years, you have to remember that they were falling from a pretty high standard to begin with. The P226 is a weapon Sig has had out there for a long time in police and military service, and odds are that most of the P226es you can find on the market will exceed the needs of most shooters. I don't know if the BW marked guns include any internal enhancements or if the differences are merely cosmetic in nature, but odds are that if you really want one it will probably be a pretty good handgun by any reasonable measure.
    Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm hearing that some of it is hit and miss, that some Sigs even now are awesome, and some are lemons and that the difference between the old Sig and new is that there's just more lemons. Here's a pic of the BW Tactical.

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    You can come and clean my pistols any time you want. Beer is on me.

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    great info, no parts replaced yet? BBL. springs, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddG View Post
    After the success of the project, SIG decided to continue selling guns with the anchor on them, calling them "NAVY" guns but without always using the Navy internals and without continuing to fulfill the commitment to the WARCOM JAG that part of the proceeds would go to SOWF.
    Thats is &&%$ wrong right there.

    Loved my 226 stil have it have not shot it in years, as I am to busy with my M&P. I ll never part with it.

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    Was that Navy P226 that made the 50,000 an alloy frame or an all steel frame?

    "Addressing the problem of shootings by ban or confiscation of non-criminal's guns is like addressing the problem of rape by chopping off the Johnson of everyone who DIDN't rape anyone while not only leaving the rapists' equipment intact, but giving them free viagra to boot." --Me

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