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    3 Day Assault Pack

    What are some good items yall would include in a 3 Day Assault pack? Im not talking about an E&E or BOB, but an Assault Pack. What items would you put in your pack to go on a 2 or 3 day partol or mission to assault a position. Terrain would be pine forests and low lying scrub.

    I think the pack should be light, as, its going to be lugged around on foot for three days.

    For food ive essentially got three days worth of:

    Oatmeal, Beef jerky, cliff bars, protein powder, peanut butter and trail mix (make my own)

    Ive also included in my pack, a med kit, gun cleaning, bug spray, a knife, some 550 cord, a brown tarp, batteries for my optic and light, and essential hygene stuff, including toilet paper. I also packed some extra plastic bags, just in case theyre needed.

    Is there anything im leaving out? right now the pack is up to around 23lbs.

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    This seems like a trap but I will bite...

    It depends on the mission. What you will encounter between your insertion point and your target (terrain, weather, defenses, time, ability to surveil/recon, etc), how long you will be out (planned and contingency), what you will encounter and need at your assault point (need to breach/demo/tools/etc, low light capabilities/NVG/markers/etc, less lethal and restraints, etc), what you will encounter and need during exfil.

    What is the point of your assault? Kill everyone, take prisoners, collect info, disrupt equipment, secure an OP for a primary target, etc, etc, etc.

    What is your means of infil/exfil and how much support will you have?

    And the list goes on...

    A lot goes into packing an assault pack for a real mission instead of for contingency plans. You need to assess your mission and look at what you need for your PACE plans.

    I like to break the mission down into sections and address each section separately and form a gear list then look at what is redundant and whether the redundant item is disposable (demo, smoke, etc) or reusable (rope, NVGs, binos, etc).

    The same should apply to the unexpected (injuries, gear failures, etc) so when packing your med gear consider how long you will be out, or packing batteries for commo/NVGs/lights/lasers/optics plan on enough to run them more than expected.


    Just a few things off memory, come up with a checklist of considerations. I am curious what the mission is? Not trying to be a dick but it seems like if you were in a position to execute a real world mission you would know how to pack for it (this being different from a BOB)

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    doc, no trap. im just curious to be honest, I just joined the military recently and have an Eagle A III assault pack and thought it would be good practice and exercise to get a list of possible things i may need and throw an Assault pack together and go on a hike.

    There is no mission here except a couple days of fun in the woods with some buddies.

    I cant really think of any reason to be assaulting anything here in the CONUS short of a massive natural disaster which spawns a social breakdown, communist invasion, or civil instability... and the chance of any one of those three happening is about the same chance i have at being able to successfully impregnate two lesbian pandas in a kinky three sum to create some sort of pandaman.

    I googled and couldnt really find anything. I was wondering mostly because, just from the things ive thrown into a pack, i can see where these things could start to get a little on the heavy side, and was mainly looking to see what the differences would be in what one would throw into a bug out bag (oh shit contingency bag), and an assault pack. What does a two or three day assault pack typically weigh on average?

    Cheers bros.
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    Shit gets heavy, I try to cut down on gear as much as possible to streamline my kit and move faster but sometimes you just have to gut it out. What is your MOS? Train up and hit the trail, progressively adding weight and you will get along fine.


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    lulz, nice pic. thats what ive been doin though, i got around 23ish lbs in it now, im gonna work up to around 50 ish. thanks dude.

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    Maybe throw a plate or two in to simulate the weight of extra ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Stewie View Post


    Shit gets heavy, I try to cut down on gear as much as possible to streamline my kit and move faster but sometimes you just have to gut it out. What is your MOS? Train up and hit the trail, progressively adding weight and you will get along fine.


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    Assault Pack for Mission(s)

    for "Trainning" toss in a few bricks/ ammo can full of sand, ect. ect.

    AD Light had to carry Law/ AT-4.. full of sand/ lead and ammo can(s) of the same for trainning.. skipped carring much otherwise. water, ammo, "explosives", socks, a tee shirt, TP, clean kit,shave kit, poncho w/ liner "pack light feeze at night" a bunch of other small stuff that add up realy quick. Moving fast isn't always what the Dismounted or Light Inf. performs there quick and noisy or stealth and slower.

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    Not knowing what you do for a living, are we talking "raiding an incampment of enemy's from say, 400 yrds away" or are we talking about a military operation?

    (10 cool points for whoever gets the cross-forum reference. )


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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    Not knowing what you do for a living, are we talking "raiding an incampment of enemy's from say, 400 yrds away" or are we talking about a military operation?

    (10 cool points for whoever gets the cross-forum reference. )


    -B
    Do you think it will involve shooting oxygen tanks with a mosin nagant (reply to your cross forum reference and not the OP of this thread)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Foxtrot View Post
    What are some good items yall would include in a 3 Day Assault pack? Im not talking about an E&E or BOB, but an Assault Pack. What items would you put in your pack to go on a 2 or 3 day partol or mission to assault a position. Terrain would be pine forests and low lying scrub.
    With all due respect,

    Your food menu reads like you are going to 24 Hour Fitness rather than a 72 hour kill fest. You will probably be issued 3 MREs per day, but end up taking only a few because most of your space will be taken up with ammo.

    Your brown tarp will be used to recover your body since you didn't bring any water and choked to death on dry protein powder. Why do you want protein powder anyhow? How about some caloric dense food that doesn't require water to fix or give your a farts? Not good for team moral..

    What good is keeping your med kit, cleaning kit, and spare batts in your pack if you will probably be leaving it in the ORP or PB anyhow? Or are you planning on assaulting with your pack on? What if things go FUBAR and you have to EE and leave your pack behind? Maybe some stuff should be stored on your body rather than inside the ruck?

    Hygene? You are going out for three days. You probably need one spare set of socks. You will not shave or use soap. Probably not wear underwear. Toilet paper is in the MREs. If not, use a leaf or low lying scrub.

    Are you moving through the FEBA, being dropped off by helo, or beaming down from the mothership? How are you getting back from the Piney woods?

    Hmm, can I assume you have never been in the military? Sorry for being a bit sarcastic, but what I am trying to say it that you are talking about military operations. Even if you are not part of the military, you are still doing military ops. Think about it.

    Sincerely,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKE G View Post
    Do you think it will involve shooting oxygen tanks with a mosin nagant (reply to your cross forum reference and not the OP of this thread)
    Hells yeah. A sub-moa one at that.


    -B
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraq Ninja View Post
    With all due respect,

    Your food menu reads like you are going to 24 Hour Fitness rather than a 72 hour kill fest. You will probably be issued 3 MREs per day, but end up taking only a few because most of your space will be taken up with ammo.

    Your brown tarp will be used to recover your body since you didn't bring any water and choked to death on dry protein powder. Why do you want protein powder anyhow? How about some caloric dense food that doesn't require water to fix or give your a farts? Not good for team moral..

    What good is keeping your med kit, cleaning kit, and spare batts in your pack if you will probably be leaving it in the ORP or PB anyhow? Or are you planning on assaulting with your pack on? What if things go FUBAR and you have to EE and leave your pack behind? Maybe some stuff should be stored on your body rather than inside the ruck?

    Hygene? You are going out for three days. You probably need one spare set of socks. You will not shave or use soap. Probably not wear underwear. Toilet paper is in the MREs. If not, use a leaf or low lying scrub.

    Are you moving through the FEBA, being dropped off by helo, or beaming down from the mothership? How are you getting back from the Piney woods?

    Hmm, can I assume you have never been in the military? Sorry for being a bit sarcastic, but what I am trying to say it that you are talking about military operations. Even if you are not part of the military, you are still doing military ops. Think about it.

    Sincerely,

    IN
    never been in the .mil. you bring up valid points. thanks for your input bro.

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    assault pack

    This was a base packing list for an assault pack used in OEF...

    500ml IV ringers bag and starter kit
    100 ounces of water in a second hydration bladder
    Two Meals, Ready to Eat (MREs) broke down
    Poncho and Poncho Liner
    Bivy Sack
    Undershirt
    Batteries
    2 pair of socks
    Polypro or ninja suit shirt
    Fleece cap
    M4 Rifle Cleaning Kit
    Personal hygiene kit
    Sling rope with two snap links

    I am not a fan of rote packing lists, but this was one. As base packing list I am referring to the bare minimum, more mission specific items will be added like a MG belt. As for personal items, I would add ephidrine pills, 550 cord, 100mph tape on a plastic card,IFAK spare. I wouldn't carry empty plastic bags, use them to pack your gear. If you need less than what is listed, you dont need an assault pack. I actually like the MOLLE waistpack.

    I should note like others above, that when conducting an actual assault, few actually wear a pack. A medic, ratelo, breaching element would be the likely suspects.

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