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    Wilson Combat TTU trigger review

    Just a quick note, I really, really like this trigger, a lot
    it's the first time I have ever used a single stage trigger in an AR
    for the most part, I have used the RRA NM 2 stage and been happy with it
    I have one in my Sabre Defense 5.56

    I have a Jewell in my Remington LTR and while it's set lighter, the Wilson is just as nice
    It has no creep nor overtravel, and a very short reset
    in fact, when it resets, the trigger moves forward maybe an 1/8" and stops, as you start to apply pressure on the trigger there is no movement whatsoever, just a solid wall that breaks clean and ultra crisp
    very crisp and breaks like the perverbial glass rod


    I did put a Gieselle SSA in my ARP 16" Recon but after using this Wilson, I think I am going to replace it with another TTU
    Not that I don't like the SSA, but that I want both of my hunting ARs to be the same trigger and would rather have the TTU than the SSA personally

    in short, I don't think there's any way they could make the trigger more perfect
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    Thanks for the review.

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    Thanks for that. I've been looking at these but have yet to hear any input.

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    I hadn't heard much either until you started this thread. I am glad to read your review. I am going to get one and try it out as well.

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    I'm currently running a JP and a Timney on my personal guns. I was thinking about the TTU for my next build (11.5 SBR). I really don't like 2 stage triggers, and have been happy so far with my current triggers, but it seems that the TTU is made more rugged and focused more toward tactical use as opposed to competition use. I look forward to hearing more reviews, as I will probably be making my puirchase in the next 3 months once my form 1 comes in.
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    on AR15.com there's a guy that has been using JPs and now has the TTU and definitely prefers it

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    It looks a lot like the Timney design which had some problems with doubling and failing to fire. I do like the idea of drop-in trigger packs, though. However, both the Timney and the CMC had issues that resulted in recalls or replacement. Personally, I'd like to wait and see how reliable it is before buying one.

    I have a CMC Super Match single stage that I liked, but just replaced with a Geissele Hi-Speed, after putting an SSA in other AR. I switched to Geissele because they are combat proven, and the CMC had been discontinued. Now the CMC is back in production, go figure.

    I am finding I like a two-stage better, because it is forgiving on the take up and allows a crisp let off with a safer total pull weight.

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    Thanks for the review. The TTU series has been a huge success. We are planning other pull weights and also have a two-stage that will be shipping soon, also in various pull weights.

    The resemblance to the Timney is just that- a cosmetic resemblance. We license the modular build style from CMC-as does everyone else who build a modular, drop-in trigger. Our internals are completely different-Our TTU models all have a short crisp pull and short, fast reset. Even the "two-stage" models have a short two stage pull, similar to 1911 takeup.

    Our trigger geometry and parts construction are truly "Bulletproof", extremely drop safe and have a built in half-cock style safety notch if something were to fail, which hasn't happened yet.

    We believe that this is ONLY drop in modular trigger that will stand up to the rigors of extreme tactical use. It took many years in development, two firearms engineers and many thousands of dollars in R&D! We guarantee your satisfaction with this product. This product was designed to be a COMBAT trigger, not a race gun trigger like all the other modular units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccoker View Post
    Just a quick note, I really, really like this trigger, a lot
    it's the first time I have ever used a single stage trigger in an AR
    for the most part, I have used the RRA NM 2 stage and been happy with it
    I have one in my Sabre Defense 5.56

    I have a Jewell in my Remington LTR and while it's set lighter, the Wilson is just as nice
    It has no creep nor overtravel, and a very short reset
    in fact, when it resets, the trigger moves forward maybe an 1/8" and stops, as you start to apply pressure on the trigger there is no movement whatsoever, just a solid wall that breaks clean and ultra crisp
    very crisp and breaks like the perverbial glass rod


    I did put a Gieselle SSA in my ARP 16" Recon but after using this Wilson, I think I am going to replace it with another TTU
    Not that I don't like the SSA, but that I want both of my hunting ARs to be the same trigger and would rather have the TTU than the SSA personally

    in short, I don't think there's any way they could make the trigger more perfect
    Excellent review and well said. I put several hundred rounds downrange with the new trigger last week and was immensely satisfied with the crispness and break of the trigger. There was no creep or drag whatsoever.
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    any select fire trigger in the future? something like the Geissele SSF?

    Maybe a single stage select fire?

    Geissele has a 2stage semi and a single stage full auto.
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    Thanks for post I'am very interested in purchasing a single stage trigger. And the Wilson TTU is at the top of the list.

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    The original TTU is hands down the fastest trigger I have ever used on a firearm. It breaks as clean as the trigger on my rail gun an amazing gunsmith fixed up for me.

    I ended up parting ways with it because there were times when I could not control the trigger when shooting hammer pairs or drills at a higher cadence.

    I'm 100% sure this was my fault but it was almost as if it would bump fire against my shoulder. I would ride the reset as if I was shooting a Glock. Finger would remain on the trigger after the round was fired. I would let go of the trigger and my finger would ride it up through reset and repeat.

    When doing this very quickly I found myself sometimes putting 2-3 rounds down range more than I intended to.

    Since I was a kid out of all the guns I shot and and all the triggers I shot with this was the first time this happened to me. Trigger weight on this model was the lightest so maybe that combined with the short lightning quick reset was a little too much for me.

    Never had that happen with any usgi or geissele triggers I've become accustomed to these days.

    I intend I try their 5LBS single stage one day.

    Btw I should mention the CS at Wilson Combat will move heaven and earth to help their customers. Really great people over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanceriley View Post
    any select fire trigger in the future? something like the Geissele SSF?

    Maybe a single stage select fire?

    Geissele has a 2stage semi and a single stage full auto.

    That is what I want. A select fire trigger in a modular drop-in unit for my Colt M16 lowers. Would replace the non-rotating KNS pins that currently reside in my M16 lowers.

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    I wouldn't judge two stage triggers by the RRA NM2 trigger. Its a terrible two stage in comparison to geissele triggers.

    Im partial to two stage triggers but Id like to try a quality single stage for my SD gun. Was thinking timney or cmc but I just might try the TTU. Has anyone had a CMC or Timney as well as the TTU to directly compare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyScout4Life View Post
    Thanks for post I'am very interested in purchasing a single stage trigger. And the Wilson TTU is at the top of the list.
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    wilson combat ttu 3g

    I purchased a ttu 3g and it installed in a le6920 and this was a very easy installation. This trigger has a better feel and action than any bolt or semi-auto rifle I own. Wilson combat makes several great products and have never been disappointed by them.

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    My experience with the Wilson TTU has been very positive - everyone knows I am a big Geisselle fan but I don't think you can go wrong with a TTU either

    Between those two brands you have no reason to look further

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    There have been reports of multiple parts breakages on these triggers from a local SWAT team. I observed one brand new in the package with a broken hammer spring which caused it to fail to fire, and there was also a breakage with a display model.

    They seem like great triggers - I've heard too much to want to try one though.

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    Donovan,
    Thanks for letting us know about this! Parts breakage is not a problem that we have experienced with TTU's to any extint(can't recall any). We have had springs loose strength, and springs out of place( during installation), but breakage has not been an issue over the many thousands we have shipped.

    Please let me know the PD in question(thru PM if you prefer), and we will contact them ASAP to make sure that we take care of their problems, and of course we would really like to get our hands on these problem TTU's,

    While they may have already had contact with us, I don't recall hearing about it, and something involving parts breakage would have caused quite a stir. If they have already contacted someone at WC, we would still like to follow up and make sure that everything is taken care of, and that they have reliable gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonovanM View Post
    There have been reports of multiple parts breakages on these triggers from a local SWAT team. I observed one brand new in the package with a broken hammer spring which caused it to fail to fire, and there was also a breakage with a display model.

    They seem like great triggers - I've heard too much to want to try one though.
    Not taking issue with the seriousness of your observations, but please keep in mind that, as presented, this is largely anecdotal -- and contrary to the experiences of most current TTU users who have thus far used and reviewed the product. "Multiple parts breakages" experienced by an unidentifed group suggests either a bad batch of product or some kind of installation errors. Further, are we talking about something as simple as a few springs popping out of the units while in their retail packaging, or actual component failures while installed in the gun?

    The questions are rhetorical, but the point is that more detail is needed to really ascertain whether there is a product issue here or a user issue. Assuming the former, this would be the first serious mention of any TTU failure of which I am aware. Am certainly not saying that it is not possible, or did not happen; merely pointing out the difficulties associated with the ambiguity of the "there have been reports ..." approach. I'm also left to wonder how a problem of this severity would not already be well-known to the team at Wilson, as I would expect any department armorer worth his salt to have already been in contact with them, were the problem on anything approaching the stated order of magnitude.

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