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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Few thoughts here. Smaller doses of T more often is the in thing these days, some doing very small doses (20mg) daily. Some feel better on such schedules, but frankly it shows a lack of understanding of the pharmacokinetics of those esters. Use of Arimidex without showing a need for it (via blood work showing elevated E2) is a waste of $ and can cause side effects, lower HDL, etc. Docs adding in Arimidex as part of standard protocol without doing so to address elevated E2 (as not all men experience elevated E2), are using bad medicine. Three, that dose of HCG higher than needed to maintain fertility and gonadal function and may lead to elevated E2.

    Those who want to take their knowledge base on this topic, including docs you may be working with, should join the excelmale site and forums. I'd be happy to speak with your doc if needed.
    Thanks Will! I'll head over there now and sign up. I would hope blood work/results would be part of the protocol too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    Thanks Will! I'll head over there now and sign up. I would hope blood work/results would be part of the protocol too.
    I'd sure as hell hope so, but not always the case and addition of Arimidex without indication it's needed without blood work not uncommon these days. Those jumping on the TRT/HRT train looking to make people think they have the magic ju ju protocols when they don't and or can potentially do as much harm as good using cookie cutter protocols.
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    DH is lucky. He got put on anastrozole for elevated e2(bloodwork confirmed). But in his case a very low dose keeps him where he needs to be and has not crashed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic303 View Post
    DH is lucky. He got put on anastrozole for elevated e2(bloodwork confirmed). But in his case a very low dose keeps him where he needs to be and has not crashed him.
    Many do over dose and crash E2 levels after confirming elevated levels. Even among some in the medical community, E2 = bad in men and a "female" hormone to be suppressed. Worked with one guy who had a doc put him on 3mg per week of anastrozole which took him from elevated to almost non detectable. Talk about pan into the fire.
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    DH is on .5mg once a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic303 View Post
    DH is on .5mg once a week.

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    Always best to titrate up until until target levels achieved vs titrate down after crashing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Many do over dose and crash E2 levels after confirming elevated levels. Even among some in the medical community, E2 = bad in men and a "female" hormone to be suppressed. Worked with one guy who had a doc put him on 3mg per week of anastrozole which took him from elevated to almost non detectable. Talk about pan into the fire.
    Yes, I saw a doc who thought (still thinks) letrozole was (is) the best AI for TRT....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    I'd sure as hell hope so, but not always the case and addition of Arimidex without indication it's needed without blood work not uncommon these days. Those jumping on the TRT/HRT train looking to make people think they have the magic ju ju protocols when they don't and or can potentially do as much harm as good using cookie cutter protocols.
    My estradoil, serum was 60 pf/ml The reference range they list is 0-40. I knew this was one of my issues. I have a call into my doc now.
    Sex Hormone Binding Gloublin is 9.1
    Total T was 586
    Free T was 20.4

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic303 View Post
    DH is lucky. He got put on anastrozole for elevated e2(bloodwork confirmed). But in his case a very low dose keeps him where he needs to be and has not crashed him.

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    Who prescribes it for DH? Local Doc?


    Will you in box is full. Can you PM me a way to get in touch with you for a possible consultation with my local Doc? I will figure out how to reach out VIA Skype.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    My estradoil, serum was 60 pf/ml The reference range they list is 0-40. I knew this was one of my issues. I have a call into my doc now.
    Sex Hormone Binding Gloublin is 9.1
    Total T was 586
    Free T was 20.4
    Which estradiol test are you using? Males should be using the ultra sensitive test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    My estradoil, serum was 60 pf/ml The reference range they list is 0-40. I knew this was one of my issues. I have a call into my doc now.
    Sex Hormone Binding Gloublin is 9.1
    Total T was 586
    Free T was 20.4

    Who prescribes it for DH? Local Doc?


    Will you in box is full. Can you PM me a way to get in touch with you for a possible consultation with my local Doc? I will figure out how to reach out VIA Skype.
    Originally his endocrinologist . New PCP who does write his TRT script is unfamiliar with using a-dex, so on Friday we will get a new scrip from his new endo. His old endo moved out of state. 😢

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