which .308/.762 AR and why

[JPB]

My point being, is the SR-25 mag is pretty much the accepted standard for a current .308 gun.
I don't understand why anyone would make a non standard mag is in this system

Point noted, but up until recently, your mag (KAC) has been the only one available magazine without a spotty reputation. Approaching one bill a copy, most of the most of the DPMS crowd that flock to that mag pattern have no intestinal fortitude for such things.

As an HK93 lover, I know a thing or two about paying for mags, but many wouldn't give the rifle a second look soley because of the price of mags. You hear alot of "If they made one that took AR mags". Geeesh, then it wouldn't be an HK93! Sig catered to that calling, and the purists hate them for it.

BTW, that SR25 EM is bad ass. One of those would justify it's way into my collection if I didn't live where I do.

[No Bananas]

A quick question on the AR-10s. Before the ban ended their barrels (at least what wasn't under the handguard) was medium or heavy. Now, it appears that the standard CL barrel is a "pencil barrel." I think that Armalite says to expect accuracy of 1.5-2 MOA. What are the real world specs?

LMT & Larue have a great reputation. Time will tell how they preform.

Any further info on the LMT's release date?

[SHIVAN]

A quick question on the AR-10s. Before the ban ended their barrels (at least what wasn't under the handguard) was medium or heavy. Now, it appears that the standard CL barrel is a "pencil barrel." I think that Armalite says to expect accuracy of 1.5-2 MOA. What are the real world specs?

In reality, it depends on the ammo and the shooter. The gun is easily capable of 2 MOA using a magnified optic and shooting for accuracy with a sling in prone, or on a bench with bags.

I've shot some ammo in my AR-10's that simply would not group for shit, but the gun did using other ammo.

I'd say those specs are easily achievable in any ArmaLite AR-10, easily.

[Falar]

I'm partial to the Armalite pattern rifles. I've got a slew of 20 and 25rd mags and got all of them for about $30 a piece during their sales. I don't see how the magazines are an issue since they are affordable reliable, and available. Until Magpul came out with a KAC pattern mag you couldn't get a reliable 20rd mag for the same price for the other platforms. The DPMS guns are typical DPMS; low quallity. I'm sure the LaRue and SR-25s are great rifles (man I want an M110, but would probably never be able to buy one at current prices. If I saved up that much I'd probably just save a bit more and get a transferrable M16/RDIAS) but for a small fraction of the price I've gotten excellent accuracy and reliability from my AR10. If I were rich, I'd definitely have a KAC or two but that doesn't mean I would shy away from the AR10.

[BiggLee71]

I'm using a Noveske N6 14.5" w/ NF 1X4X24 FC-2 Ret. right now on a Saudi Protective detail in Vegas.

Why ?

It runs and shoots superbly.

I run 168 & 175 gr w/ no issues whatsoever w/ gen 2 mags etc.

Good luck on your quest.

HTH....

Hoplo, that's a rock solid setup right there. NF Scopes are quickly proving their rugged construction in battle. The glass is good too. NF is personally the company I turn to currently for my scopes
I may try an S&B Short Dot on my new Knight's Armament MK11 Carbine tho just for shits and giggles. As far as weapons platforms, Noveske gets the job done as the heart of an aacurate platform is its barrel. LMT would be first on my list if price and availability were an issue. If not,check out the Knights Armament SR25EM or MK11

[VooDoo6Actual]

Hoplo, that's a rock solid setup right there. NF Scopes are quickly proving their rugged construction in battle. The glass is good too. NF is personally the company I turn to currently for my scopes
I may try an S&B Short Dot on my new Knight's Armament MK11 Carbine tho just for shits and giggles. As far as weapons platforms, Noveske gets the job done as the heart of an aacurate platform is its barrel. LMT would be first on my list if price and availability were an issue. If not,check out the Knights Armament SR25EM or MK11

Copy.

Right on.


I'm in agreement re: Knight's SR 25 EM but, SR 25 EM is not available in People's Socialist Republic of Kalifornication (being such an evil rifle & all.)

I have a LEA working on that solution etc.

Noveske's N6 AR10 (DI) rocks and usually people have not actually owned or shot one but rather embellish/prevaricate what they have heard/experienced from Armalite & GEN 1 mag problems.

It eats up all the 168 & 175 I shove into it.

Checkmate rectified the problem w/ gen 11 mags as has been pointed out several times. Those mags are robust, plentyfull, reasonable priced and dependable.

MY N6 gives me 1 to 1.5 MOA which is superior to my FALs. Sage EBR w/ 18" Krieger built by SEI has the accuracy but a heavy beast & not pragmatic to lug around on PSD type work.

NF has performed well for me as I own several of their optics.

I can only surmise that they will follow suite and produce a 1X6 / 1X8 etc. scope soon. Makes sense and would be the HEAT.

I'm waiting to T&E that Leupy 1 X 8 optic as well looks viable sans the weight issue etc. (But good glass is heavy & that variable range does need more lens elements/glass to function)

I heard via a mutual friend regarding your SR 25 EM.

"Good on Ya" even if it costs' you a Kidney !

[GermanSynergy]

I'm going to purchase a KAC SR 25 Carbine as funds allow. If it's anywhere near as good as my IWS E3, it's sure to be a winner.

[Belmont31R]

I'm going to purchase a KAC SR 25 Carbine as funds allow. If it's anywhere near as good as my IWS E3, it's sure to be a winner.

I cannot justify 6k for a gun that is basically an upsized SR15 which I was very ok with paying 2k for. I dont feel as though Id get 4k worth more of gun...I was strongly hoping it would be in the 3-4k range. 6k, and it doesnt even come with the Super Tap brake?

[QuietShootr]

That IS ****ing gorgeous, there is no doubt. I just can't see 5K for it. I'm the LAST thing from cheap, but damn.

ETA: if an employer or gov were paying for it, I'll take two.

[ColdDeadHands]

When you build several thousand government 7.62mm guns you learn a thing or two...

Yes our guns are expensive, we are trying to lower the price as best as we can, and this years guns are 100x the guns where of old, and cheaper than the last few years.


The SR-25 mag is the 7.62mm standard these day, as its in Military usage.

What makes it better then the Larue OBR?