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    Who builds the lightest AR-15 today? woman/kid

    So looking at an AR-15 as a woman / kid gun, who makes the lightest one? Hopefully there is something out there as light as the Colt SP-1.

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    Light AR Rifle

    Hello 500 Grains,
    You may want to take a look over at the Daniel Defense website. They are now making a Pencil barrel AR. It is listed only as the upper, not as a complete rifle (see link).

    -comparable pencil barrel model upper/ "Light-Weight" profile from BCM [no HFB like DD];http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-1...g-mid-16lw.htm

    Also, although I wouldn't recommend it for defensive use but as a range gun a complete CMMG rifle with a pencil barrel was available at one time as well. Both rifles are supposed to be fairly light-weight. I checked through their site and didn't see it listed but it was offered at one time. Most of the manufacturers will build whatever you want so a phone call or e-mail may be worth your time to check. Same goes for Rock River Arms and a couple of the other similar class manufacturers like DPMS, etc. have similar offerings (same caveat/ range toys only).

    Finally, not long ago there were a few threads regarding light-weight builds, you may want to search through the Custom Build and AR General threads for the particular postings. If I recall, this subject was discussed by Robs and GotM4.

    Personally, I would *strongly recommend* checking-out the Daniel Defense Rifles or slapping together a rifle by building the lower and ordering an Upper from Daniel Defense or from BCM. If you opt to build your own rifle checking-out Rob's site Yellow tactical visor is highly recommended. As a matter of fact before ordering/ buying the gun it is a worthwhile read. His insight/ experience into what is really required/ useful for a Hard-Use and practical carbine is on point (link listed below).

    Good Luck,
    SkiDevil

    LINKS:
    http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/

    http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=s...product_id=266

    http://www.tacticalyellowvisor.net/8343/59827.html

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-...Groups-s/1.htm

    READING:
    SWAT Magazine article written by Tiger McKee regarding light-weight build AR, check back issues.

    I found a summary of the article at;
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=431559
    Last edited by SkiDevil; 04-29-10 at 14:04. Reason: added link/ info.

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    if you want to go even more lightweight, have to cobble together parts vs a complete rifle. Using a pencil upper and a Cavalry Arms MkII lower. The lower is actually cheaper than a comparable aluminum lower because of the integrated buttstock. Cav Arms lower is worth looking into.

    Carbine pencil upper will be slightly lighter than a midlength pencil. But carbine will have more recoil due to the gas system. My middy lightweight recoils more than my other middys just because the gun weighs less than my other setups by 2 lbs.

    My Cav Arms + BCM middy LW upper setup weighs about 5.75lbs unloaded with iron sights only. Balanced well, the center of balance is somewhere around the magwell.
    Last edited by ForTehNguyen; 04-29-10 at 14:20.

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    A Colt 6520 is a great carbine but it limits optics options.

    A Daniel Defense lightweight flat top upper on a DD lower would probably get the nod from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar View Post
    A Colt 6520 is a great carbine but it limits optics options.
    Problem?

    Solution!

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    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...egory_rn=15702

    Listed at 6 lbs is an accurate weigh. This rifle is very similar to one I assembled a couple months ago.



    Even with the Streamlight and Burris red dot sight, mine is only 6.5 lbs.
    Last edited by Sam; 04-29-10 at 14:39.

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    FWIW, I am building just such a gun as this. Building, IMHO, is going to get you lighter and better suited to your purposes.

    My list of parts that I'm slowly accumulating:
    Les Baer non-forward assist upper
    Daniel Defense 14.5" lightweight carbine barrel
    PWS FS 556 (or similar)
    Troy Industries TRX Extreme 9.0 tube


    Less certain about the lower. Thinking of using a Daniel Defense lower, probably an LPK that I have, Geisselle SSA trigger, one of the new Troy grips, a standard M4 stock...

    I'd like to top the whole thing with one of Trijicon's sub-compact 1.5x ACOGs with the green circle/dot reticule.

    IMHO what you want to do on a lightweight build is balance the light weight with the recoil management and the recoil management with the back-blast.

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