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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    The concept of interpersonal violence is overcomplicated by many.
    I think that it's actually pretty simple.

    1- Prepare for the fight
    2- Fight to win

    Everything about skill, technique, mindset, etcetera, falls within. Any attempt to cover every bit of minutiae will fail, and frankly is unnecessary. Most people seem to benefit more from action than rhetoric.

    But that's just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rat31465 View Post
    I had an instructor tell me once that the three A's were vital to personal safety/combat.

    Awareness-to your surroundings, where are the exits and places to take a stand?
    Attention-to those in your immediate proximity close enough and with the ability to do you harm.
    Attitude-if I find myself involved in a confrontation/fight...I am going to win at all cost.

    This has always stuck in my head especially if I find myself in a less than ideal location.

    After thinking a little more on it...I think I would another A for Ability. Whether your carying a firearm, a knife or a sharpened stick...you better have the know how and ability to use it properly as well.
    Most situational awareness is to avoid the fight in the first place (certainly a good idea) and to assess the fighting environment should the fight become unavoidable. Obviously these are matters related to personal combat, especially if you desire to pull a Sun Tzu and "win before the battle is joined", but the "Three Factors" I presented are mostly related to the combat as well.

    As we have seen, most things have overlap, and one can not exist completely separate from another factor or influence. I pointed them out in the manner I did to make those who may not have considered them in this priority aware of them so they may do so.
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    Mentality

    I think your statements on ones "Fighting Spirit" are right on the money. I would add that this mental approach towards combat is somewhat lacking in todays society.

    Many Warrior cultures like the Native Americans taught that if you truly believe that your actions are/were justified, you would not be burdened with a guilty conscious. Nor would you feel the burden to dwell upon the results of your actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rat31465 View Post
    I think your statements on ones "Fighting Spirit" are right on the money. I would add that this mental approach towards combat is somewhat lacking in todays society.

    Many Warrior cultures like the Native Americans taught that if you truly believe that your actions are/were justified, you would not be burdened with a guilty conscious. Nor would you feel the burden to dwell upon the results of your actions.
    I can think of half a dozen cultures that would actually feel shame for not taking actions when they are justified. More than a few would not only have a clear conscience for taking action, they would feel they have satisfied an obligation to do so and feel a sense of accomplishment.

    Sadly, our modern western culture has become mostly about getting lawyers to fix your problems for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    2. Strength - ... This does not necessarily always mean 'muscle strength' but more a greater capacity for power of application.
    Remember, F=mv2 (Force= mass x velocity squared). Velocity is squared. This means the fast strike hits with more force than the big slow strike.

    The legendary catch wrestler Karl Gotch recommended fighters not lift weights at all. He was doing dynamic functional exercises long before Cross Fit came up with the Exercise of the Day.

    In my personal experience weight lifting slows me down - particularly my punching.

    Will a Flyweight hit as hard as a Heavyweight? No. But, a good trained Middleweight will give your average meat head bouncer serious problems.

    The guy who knows how to fight and can fight with intensity will usually beat the lesser fighter of any size. I am about twice the size of most ethnically Thai, Muy Thai fighters. Ever see how hard and fast these guys fight? I would still not want to trade blows with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armati View Post
    Remember, F=mv2 (Force= mass x velocity squared). Velocity is squared. This means the fast strike hits with more force than the big slow strike.

    The legendary catch wrestler Karl Gotch recommended fighters not lift weights at all. He was doing dynamic functional exercises long before Cross Fit came up with the Exercise of the Day.

    In my personal experience weight lifting slows me down - particularly my punching.

    Will a Flyweight hit as hard as a Heavyweight? No. But, a good trained Middleweight will give your average meat head bouncer serious problems.

    The guy who knows how to fight and can fight with intensity will usually beat the lesser fighter of any size. I am about twice the size of most ethnically Thai, Muy Thai fighters. Ever see how hard and fast these guys fight? I would still not want to trade blows with one.
    Yep, that is where I was going with that. When I think "strength" I tend to think Bruce Lee rather than Arnold Schwarzenegger. I know who could lift more, but I also know who could hit harder.

    Lee trained with weights, but not for size. He did more reps with lower weights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armati View Post
    Remember, F=mv2 (Force= mass x velocity squared). Velocity is squared. This means the fast strike hits with more force than the big slow strike.

    The legendary catch wrestler Karl Gotch recommended fighters not lift weights at all. He was doing dynamic functional exercises long before Cross Fit came up with the Exercise of the Day.

    In my personal experience weight lifting slows me down - particularly my punching.

    Will a Flyweight hit as hard as a Heavyweight? No. But, a good trained Middleweight will give your average meat head bouncer serious problems.

    The guy who knows how to fight and can fight with intensity will usually beat the lesser fighter of any size. I am about twice the size of most ethnically Thai, Muy Thai fighters. Ever see how hard and fast these guys fight? I would still not want to trade blows with one.
    +100

    Being able to carry the weight of ones own body efficiently in conventional and unconventional positions is the first key to unlocking the barbaric primal strength and conditioning one needs in close quarters to injure the human anatomy despite its mass and density.
    I know people who can bench 400 pounds but cannot do a hand stand let alone walk on the hands. I know people who can pull big weight on the lat machine but fail to do 10 dead weight pullups in a row.
    I have found the key to "superior strength and agility" exists in natural elements and not in your local gym at leat in a combative sense...
    In many ways, the dude that climbs trees and throws heavy rocks is more adept in a combative sense than the duide that pumps iron on the now conventional machinery....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    The concept of interpersonal violence is overcomplicated by many.
    I think that it's actually pretty simple.

    1- Prepare for the fight
    2- Fight to win

    Everything about skill, technique, mindset, etcetera, falls within. Any attempt to cover every bit of minutiae will fail, and frankly is unnecessary. Most people seem to benefit more from action than rhetoric.

    But that's just my opinion.


    True...

    but if it was that easy... training would be a snap.
    "Everyone has been given a gift in life. Some people have a gift for science and some have a flair for art. And warriors have been given the gift of aggression. They would no more misuse this gift than a doctor would misuse his healing arts, but they yearn for the opportunity to use their gift to help others. These people, the ones who have been blessed with the gift of aggression and a love for others, are our sheepdogs. These are our warrior"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armati View Post
    Remember, F=mv2 (Force= mass x velocity squared). Velocity is squared. This means the fast strike hits with more force than the big slow strike.
    Umm.... I understand where we're going with this, but F=m*a (mass x acceleration). Kinetic energy is 1/2*mass*velocity^2. And collisions have a lot to do with momentum, which is mass*velocity.

    Still, I agree completely with there being a balance of power and speed somewhere in the middle that is most effective.
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    I'd say perhaps an overlooked aspect of 'Combat Mindset' is practical situational awareness.

    Can I engage effectively with what I have at my disposal? Should I engage or is it to my advantage or primary responsibility to reposition?

    Perhaps it is implied here that combat was unavoidable … but if I took your passage literally I'd say this was missing.

    it comes down to a willingness (if not a desire) to fight and win
    The first element of combat mindset should be to be aware enough to either avoid combat, or as much of it as you can while achieving your goal.

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