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    Quote Originally Posted by PrivateCitizen View Post
    I'd say perhaps an overlooked aspect of 'Combat Mindset' is practical situational awareness.

    Can I engage effectively with what I have at my disposal? Should I engage or is it to my advantage or primary responsibility to reposition?

    Perhaps it is implied here that combat was unavoidable … but if I took your passage literally I'd say this was missing.



    The first element of combat mindset should be to be aware enough to either avoid combat, or as much of it as you can while achieving your goal.


    Well said.
    "Everyone has been given a gift in life. Some people have a gift for science and some have a flair for art. And warriors have been given the gift of aggression. They would no more misuse this gift than a doctor would misuse his healing arts, but they yearn for the opportunity to use their gift to help others. These people, the ones who have been blessed with the gift of aggression and a love for others, are our sheepdogs. These are our warrior"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    1. Combative Mindset -...adapt and improvise during combat.

    3. Technique ... Regardless of style and method, combative mindset and strength of technique will always be the deciding factors.
    So true, while reading about European fencing/swordmanship including photos of various schools & their proclaimed superior technique the author stated basically, when the "Grand Masters"of said technique were told to put up or shut up by a rival school all that perfect stance/technique when out the door when faced with a real blade & the possibility of actually getting cut or dead..

    " between special forces and the standard military"

    Not trying to be an jerk but shouldn't that be "Special Operations"

    Try callling a Force Recon Marine or Navy SEAL a 'special forces' (aka Army Green Beret) and you just might find out what Combatitive Mindset is really all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrivateCitizen View Post
    I'd say perhaps an overlooked aspect of 'Combat Mindset' is practical situational awareness.

    Can I engage effectively with what I have at my disposal? Should I engage or is it to my advantage or primary responsibility to reposition?

    Perhaps it is implied here that combat was unavoidable … but if I took your passage literally I'd say this was missing.



    The first element of combat mindset should be to be aware enough to either avoid combat, or as much of it as you can while achieving your goal.
    BLACK LION touched on that earlier.

    And one could write an entire post on each specific element that makes up each individual factor. I tried to limit it to those that come into play during personal combat.

    There are of course many elements of Sun Tzu like strategies that help you win, gain advantage, manipulate your environment and indeed win through political maneuvering eliminating the need to fight at all. But as stated, I tried not to write a novel.

    So instead I limited the focus to what primarily comes into play once the fight is joined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelingchild View Post
    So true, while reading about European fencing/swordmanship including photos of various schools & their proclaimed superior technique the author stated basically, when the "Grand Masters"of said technique were told to put up or shut up by a rival school all that perfect stance/technique when out the door when faced with a real blade & the possibility of actually getting cut or dead..

    " between special forces and the standard military"

    Not trying to be an jerk but shouldn't that be "Special Operations"

    Try callling a Force Recon Marine or Navy SEAL a 'special forces' (aka Army Green Beret) and you just might find out what Combatitive Mindset is really all about.
    I'm old, leave me alone.



    Be good or I'll start posting articles from old gun rags where Jeff Cooper calls magazines a clip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    BLACK LION touched on that earlier.

    And one could write an entire post on each specific element that makes up each individual factor. I tried to limit it to those that come into play during personal combat.

    There are of course many elements of Sun Tzu like strategies that help you win, gain advantage, manipulate your environment and indeed win through political maneuvering eliminating the need to fight at all. But as stated, I tried not to write a novel.

    So instead I limited the focus to what primarily comes into play once the fight is joined.


    I agree...
    One could get lost in the celestial essence of the sun, moon, stars, quasars and all thier cosmic glory but I for one had to wake myself up and simplify the shyt so it would translate into actuality whenever I needed it. I need it to materialize in a instinctively simple way that can be processed physically under dynamic stress.

    I was an engineer/firefighter in the USN and one of the most important things I learned about fire was the fire triangle...take any one of those three components away and you do not have a fire...
    It was the simplest most efficient way to understand and combat fire no matter if it was ordinance at stake or jet fuel.

    Same deal with combatives...I operate under a combat triad...If any of those three things are lost I can be rendered inefficient or ineffective. It is simple to absorb, maintain and execute at a moments notice. It also affords me an umbrella that I can "subcategorize" everything else applicable.
    "Everyone has been given a gift in life. Some people have a gift for science and some have a flair for art. And warriors have been given the gift of aggression. They would no more misuse this gift than a doctor would misuse his healing arts, but they yearn for the opportunity to use their gift to help others. These people, the ones who have been blessed with the gift of aggression and a love for others, are our sheepdogs. These are our warrior"

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    To my way of thinking, what makes me a combat survivor is:

    Mindset
    Tactics
    Dependable Gear

    Of the 3 items, most people forget to keep their tactics simple. Your gear, especially your pistol, needs to have been tested, tested and tested again. You need to be able to trust your life to your gear in all sorts of situations which is why you need to practice with it and practice often with it. Mindset is what prepares you to risk life and limb and to engage a hostile target with speed and accuracy. Mindset also lets you come through a combat situation with the ability to understand what you did and why you did it. Mindset then lets you return to a normal life.

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    Steyr, what you said about those with 4 years or less of training in MA emphasizing technique is a very true characterization of that stage in training. As Bruce Lee said (paraphrasing): "Before I studied, a punch was just a punch, a kick was just a kick; when I began to study, each was so much more; now a punch is just a punch, a kick is just a kick." Of course, this means mindset makes a huge difference, and also is a reference to the five angles of attack simplifying all application of techinque, but once one has mastered the basics so they are second nature, mindset becomes the more critical focus.

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    Needs to be bumped.
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    Just one element I would add to SteyrAug list under mind set is abillity/ willingness to fight through adversity.some call it heart.like Steyr I have trained over 30 years jn various styles and have lived and trained in Japan. One thing I have seen over and over again is fighters who have agresion ,speed, power and tech. But first solid contact he would wilt and have absolutely no desire to continue. It's the old adage do into battle prepared to die and you will survive go into battle trying not to be injured and you will not survive.

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