No its a MOE
No its a MOE
Because it's a SIG?I have yet to hear why anyone should get a SIG 516 over an MRP.
I concluded the powers at SIG are utterly tone-deaf when they installed rails on all their pistols. I don't see this "me too" rifle contradicting that conclusion. Another AR. Wowee.
It's almost like Chrysler deciding to make Fords.
Last edited by Suwannee Tim; 09-01-10 at 15:03.
Im not sure exactly what the problem is with piping hot dirty gas into the action? Go look at 87GN's findings, chamber temperatures remain largely the same between piston and DI style AR15's...
Guns get dirty, period, end of story, even Gas piston designs, its an inevitability when we are dealing with explosives.
EDIT: Gotta stay on topic here. Anyone have any info about the recall on this particular rifle?
Last edited by Magsz; 09-01-10 at 17:50.
The exact problem piping hot dirty gas into the action is the action gets hot and dirty. Of course all guns get dirty but DI guns get dirty faster and piston gun actions don't get nearly so hot. I was rebutting an assertion that the mere existence of piston guns is nonsensical. I find the existence of piston guns less amazing than the existence of DI guns. Pray thee tell, what is 87GN? I know I'm opening myself to attack by asking this question but I have already demonstrated my heresy by questioning DI so what the heck. My experience in the matter is limited to about 5K rounds through an LMT, about half through a piston upper and the other half through a DI upper. That's enough to persuade me that DI is not without it's faults.
Last edited by Suwannee Tim; 09-01-10 at 18:25.
Tim,
We are having a discussion, we arent attacking each other.
87GN is a member here, do a member search and check out some of his posts. Very informative stuff.
Ultimately there is no perfect system so you've got to pick and choose what shortcomings you want to live with.
For me, the increased recoil impulse, increased amount of parts and the overall unreliability of the Piston systems that ive handled have led me to stick with DI uppers.
To each their own.
I know I'm opening myself to attack....I wasn't referring to you personally Magsz but some folks do take this personally and they get hot when questioned or challenged. I thought maybe 87GN was some huge scientific study the AR homeboys carry around like a preacher carries a Bible.....we arent attacking each other.
I think it looks like shit. Sigs just do absolutely nothing for me. Its just another piston gun. Ill stick with my LWRC. I think there the cleanest and offer the best parts out of any AR
Street price on these are in the $1400 range
Too expensive for what you get. That's a well spec'ed DI AR15, or an LMT MRP.
No thanks. SIG really should stop messing around with these half assed endeavors and just release a SG551
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