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    Michigan SBR Law

    So I've just saved enough to buy my first Noveske rifle. I've had my eyes set on the 12.5" models, only to find out that SBRs are prohibited in MI.

    If I understand correctly, Michigan Law states that the minimum legal barrel length for a rifle should be 16 inches and the overall length has to be over 26 inches. If the barrel is shorter than that or the overall length of the rifle is under 26 inches...the weapon is not legal in Michigan. Someone please confirm or dispute my understanding of the said law.

    1. So if I were to buy a 14.5 with the flash hider, would that make me compliant with MI laws?

    2. What would be the overall length of a Noveske with 12.5" barrels?

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    In Michigan.....

    barrel below 16 inches with non-pinned/welded muzzle attachment = SBR and is illegal.

    Rifle below 26 inches in overall length whether the stock is folded or not = SBR and is illegal.

    rifle has 16 inch barrel, but rifle is between 26-30 inches whether stock is folded or not = pistol and needs pistol purchase permit and registration.

    If I understand correctly, Michigan Law states that the minimum legal barrel length for a rifle should be 16 inches and the overall length has to be over 26 inches. If the barrel is shorter than that or the overall length of the rifle is under 26 inches...the weapon is not legal in Michigan. Someone please confirm or dispute my understanding of the said law
    It's correct, except that in MI if the stock can be retracted or folded and be under 26 inches when folded/retracted, it's an SBR and therefore illegal. MI law regarding what defines an SBR is different from federal law. This is the reason why we can't have the Uzi carbine with the folding stock because with the stock folded, the length of the weapon becomes under 26 inches and is now an SBR, therefore illegal.

    So if I were to buy a 14.5 with the flash hider, would that make me compliant with MI laws?
    Assuming the barrel is 14.5 inches, the flash hider would have to be 1.5 inches long and permanently attached to be 16 inch legal.

    What would be the overall length of a Noveske with 12.5" barrels?
    Overall length of the rifle? Not sure, but it would still be an illegal SBR due to the 12.5 inch barrel.

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    You could also purchase the upper and have it on a lower registered as a pistol. This would mean the lower only has a buffer tube though...no stock.

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    Mr. V,

    Since you cannot have an SBR I would stick with a good proven 16" carbine. I would not get an expensive barrel and pin a flash hider in place, nor would I get a gay AR pistol.

    That's my .02 cents.





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    Thank you for making it clear for me.

    I guess I have no choice but go with a 16" Noveske or KAC.

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    That is unfortunate about your local laws. I have owned a couple of Noveskes and no matter what the length, they are great guns. However if your mind was set on going with a short barrel and permanently attaching a compensator to reach 16"; I saw this picture on another forum and it came to mind when I read your first post. Personally I would rather go 12.5", but if I legally couldn't, I thought is was pretty cool. Good luck with whatever you end up getting.



    Oh, If I remember correct it's a Noveske barrel cut to 13.7" with a perm attached KX3.

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    Here is my question. Why would you want to go to 13.7" with a permed flash hider? In this case you are losing probably a couple of hundred feet per second in MV and not benefit at all.

    If you can't get the benefit of a short barrel I don't see how this makes any sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enoc View Post
    That is unfortunate about your local laws. I have owned a couple of Noveskes and no matter what the length, they are great guns. However if your mind was set on going with a short barrel and permanently attaching a compensator to reach 16"; I saw this picture on another forum and it came to mind when I read your first post. Personally I would rather go 12.5", but if I legally couldn't, I thought is was pretty cool. Good luck with whatever you end up getting.



    Oh, If I remember correct it's a Noveske barrel cut to 13.7" with a perm attached KX3.

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