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[ALCOAR]

Is your new mws you first lmt mono.....you speak so easily and with such great confidence in what you say in regards to the MRP in these MONO threads about the MRP System yet your MRP pics are the only ones Ive yet to see across this vast silly internet. Clearly you must have logged serious time behind the MRP system to speak on things that are highly technical such as the amazing lack of poi shift, and the barrel swapping aspect or basically all the truly proprietary touches of the platform.

Don't worry pal, I would never ask you to qualify your heavily opinionated view of all this stuff in regards to MRPs as you must have or currently do own several of these and have been exploiting their vast capabilities for quite some time now

[Belmont31R]

Is your new mws you first lmt mono.....you speak so easily and with such great confidence in what you say in regards to the MRP in these MONO threads about the MRP System yet your MRP pics are the only ones Ive yet to see across this vast silly internet. Clearly you must have logged serious time behind the MRP system to speak on things that are highly technical such as the amazing lack of poi shift, and the barrel swapping aspect or basically all the truly proprietary touches of the platform.

Don't worry pal, I would never ask you to qualify your heavily opinionated view of all this stuff in regards to MRPs as you must have or currently do own several of these and have been exploiting their vast capabilities for quite some time now

WTF are you talking about?


Your post has nothing to do with what I posted.


Again....I fail to see how taking 3 complete seperate guns to the range is HARDER than different barrels, optics, a TQ wrench, BCG's, and then swapping between them every time you want to shoot a different setup. Why don't you explain how that makes any sense. You're the only person Ive ever heard say something along those lines. So why don't you explain it instead of some barely coherent response that has nothing to do with what I posted? Im asking YOU to explain this to me since "I fail to see how" was my original statement. I know how the MRP works, and you've done a great job of explaining it numerous times. With that in mind Id like to know how what you described is easier than taking a few complete individual guns, and swapping between those.


I never said anything about POI shift or the "proprietary touches"....

[Failure2Stop]

Everyone in this thread needs to settle down.

The lack of pictures is in no way indicative of lack of experience or knowledge. The only gun pics I have posted on this site are uppers I was selling, and I can certainly back-up my experience and ability.

Let's focus on the facts at hand and get off personal issues.

[variablebinary]

WTF are you talking about?


Your post has nothing to do with what I posted.


Again....I fail to see how taking 3 complete seperate guns to the range is HARDER than different barrels, optics, a TQ wrench, BCG's, and then swapping between them every time you want to shoot a different setup.

Colt 6920 x 3 = $3600
3 Rail systems = +/- $600
3 optics = expensive as hell

Price total over $5000

MRP + piston system kit + 16" DI stainless barrel + SBR DI + ACOG + Eotech + spare parts + ACOG + vouchers to EAG Class + a case of ammo = a hell of a lot less without the loss of utility.

That's a lot harder...on my wallet, not to mention the storage demands, and I still need all kinds of special armorers tools to change barrels when they start to lose accuracy.

[Failure2Stop]

What do the HG lengths of the MRPs equate to?
To my Mk1Mod0 eyeball it looks like the "Rifle" version would have the same length as a normal receiver with an 11 or 12 inch HG, and the CQB looks like a 7" or 8".
Anybody able to make the comparison?

[mark5pt56]

What do the HG lengths of the MRPs equate to?
To my Mk1Mod0 eyeball it looks like the "Rifle" version would have the same length as a normal receiver with an 11 or 12 inch HG, and the CQB looks like a 7" or 8".
Anybody able to make the comparison?

Should be a 9" middy and 12" rifle equal.

[Cincinnatus]

What do the HG lengths of the MRPs equate to?
To my Mk1Mod0 eyeball it looks like the "Rifle" version would have the same length as a normal receiver with an 11 or 12 inch HG, and the CQB looks like a 7" or 8".
Anybody able to make the comparison?

The CQB MRP is a little longer than your standard M4 carbine HG. The midlength 16" MRP barrel in the CQB MRP has its gas block just forward of the end of the rails/HG, so the CQB rail is about 8" to 8.5" in length. I think the rifle length MRP is 12". I have both a rifle length MRP and a CQB one. I will try to post some pics for comparison.
Here is a link to one pic showing both together. http://img29.imageshack.us/i/eua_Sol...Platform1.jpg/ Not my pic or I'd post it, not just link to it--I will try to put up some pics of my own later showing both side by side.
Actually, the CQB must be 9" in length since a 10.5" barrel protrudes 1.5" from the front of it.

[Belmont31R]

Everyone in this thread needs to settle down.

The lack of pictures is in no way indicative of lack of experience or knowledge. The only gun pics I have posted on this site are uppers I was selling, and I can certainly back-up my experience and ability.

Let's focus on the facts at hand and get off personal issues.

I just want him to explain a position he has stated a few times on here in support for his favorite brand which makes no sense. Sticking to facts (as you said) and not distortions.


He is the only person Ive ever seen online or in the real world that advocates it being easier to swap barrels, optics, BCG's, ect on the range between strings of fire instead of having complete individual weapons that you can just pick up and shoot without any of that. His position makes zero sense to me, and again Ive never heard it being used as a "selling point" in MRP setups. Hell you would have to have a barrel mitt just to take the barrel out if you shoot a single magazine through it. That alone leads me to believe, using common sense, that what was being "proposed" isn't at all based in any type of reality. Plenty of people have burned themselves not thinking, and picking up a hot barrel let alone doing it intentionally because they think having a couple/three guns at the range is harder.


So yes....sticking to the facts is what Im attempting to do, and asking someone who made a statement to explain it. I don't know about you but it doesn't make any sense to me.

[Belmont31R]

Colt 6920 x 3 = $3600
3 Rail systems = +/- $600
3 optics = expensive as hell

Price total over $5000

MRP + piston system kit + 16" DI stainless barrel + SBR DI + ACOG + Eotech + spare parts + ACOG + vouchers to EAG Class + a case of ammo = a hell of a lot less without the loss of utility.

That's a lot harder...on my wallet, not to mention the storage demands, and I still need all kinds of special armorers tools to change barrels when they start to lose accuracy.

I didn't say anything about the cost but since you brought it up sure its more expensive to have more than I setup but not all that much.


I don't know how other people shoot but when Im at the range I generally am shooting one gun, and have 1-3 other guns with me. I switch between them so barrels get a chance to cool, want to shoot different distances, ect. All I have to do is set one down, and pick up another one. I would spend half my time swapping things around with an MRP if all I had was one "chassis", and swapped optics, BCG's, and barrels out between shooting. That seems ridiculous to me.


How do you switch out a barrel without burning yourself if you just shot 100+ rounds out of it? Do you also wait for it to cool down first?

[Cincinnatus]

I didn't say anything about the cost but since you brought it up sure its more expensive to have more than I setup but not all that much.


I don't know how other people shoot but when Im at the range I generally am shooting one gun, and have 1-3 other guns with me. I switch between them so barrels get a chance to cool, want to shoot different distances, ect. All I have to do is set one down, and pick up another one. I would spend half my time swapping things around with an MRP if all I had was one "chassis", and swapped optics, BCG's, and barrels out between shooting. That seems ridiculous to me.


How do you switch out a barrel without burning yourself if you just shot 100+ rounds out of it? Do you also wait for it to cool down first?

Most guys I know with MRPs, myself included, do not swap out barrels AT the range. I only swap a barrel when I want to go from a CQB config to an SPR, or from one FH/muzzle device to another. In other words, most guys do not hot swap barrels like you would a SAW or other machinegun, you swap only if you want to switch to hunting prarie dogs from running a carbine course. In your scenario, having multiple uppers does make more sense. Not to mention that the torque wrench for swapping barrels ways as much as a whole BCG, not something I would ever hump around in the field--Barrel swapping is best done back at "base" with the MRP IMHO. Even so, it is nice to be able to have the exact same configuration with several barrel length options I can go back and forth between--just not AT the range or in the field.