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Thread: Why not permanently attach a Flash Hider w/ +1,100 degree silver solder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post

    Scotty,

    Not sure about the wanna be? I have an SBR and I am three months into the wait for the approval of my second SBR tax stamp.

    I have a 14.5" middy and had an AAC flash hider pinned. I think it would have looked alot better soldered.

    If the finish is messed up because of the high heat that would be a good reason to steer clear? Have you used the heat stop and chaulk method? If it does not work well then looks like pinning is the way to go.

    I don't see the point in spending $200 for a 14.5" bbl. I would want to go shorter for an SBR especially with the perm FH as an option. I wanted at least one non SBR to make travel easier.

    How would it ruin the value of your gun? If the heat stop and chaulk work then I would think it would make the gun easier to sell.

    If you have an SBR already, why are you getting more permanent flash hiders?

    Why not get more NFA uppers?
    Last edited by scottryan; 09-21-10 at 15:52.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AR15barrels View Post
    Well said.

    My biggest complaint about silver solder jobs as typically done on AR barrels is that they don't pass BATFE's "common hand tools" test.
    The way I saw it explained is that if you can remove a muzzle device with common handtools and non damage the barrel beyond use in the act of that, then the Batfe would not consider the job to have been permanent.
    I have removed many silver soldered muzzle devices with a 3/4" combination wrench.
    That's a pretty "common" hand tool in my book.

    Here is an example of one such barrel that had been re-parkerized after the silver solder job:

    man thats ugly brings a tear to my eye
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    When you twist off a pinned muzzle device, you damage the barrel beyond use...



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    Quote Originally Posted by nickdrak View Post

    If you are a collector who doesn't shoot your guns, then this might be a concern to you.

    Irrelavent.

    When you go to sell this barrel after an inexperienced person realizes their foolish ways to get an SBR, they will lose money. The money they could have bought a tax stamp with in the first place.

    It has nothing to do with collectability.

    There is a noticeable difference when getting in & out of a vehicle and negotiating tight hallways/doorways with a 14.5"+perm flash hider vs. a 16" with a muzzle device attached.
    I already know that. That is the only valid reason for this if you live in a communist state.
    Last edited by scottryan; 09-21-10 at 15:51.
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    I love my SBR and can't wait for my second to be approved. I've been bitten by the bug. I wish we could have supressors here in VT. My checkbook is glad we can not. Like I said earlier I wanted one non SBR so I do not need a travel letter if I want to take an AR out of state.
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    Quote:
    There is a noticeable difference when getting in & out of a vehicle and negotiating tight hallways/doorways with a 14.5"+perm flash hider vs. a 16" with a muzzle device attached.

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    I already know that.

    so what exactly makes people who want to do this a wannabe ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by devildogljb View Post
    Quote:
    There is a noticeable difference when getting in & out of a vehicle and negotiating tight hallways/doorways with a 14.5"+perm flash hider vs. a 16" with a muzzle device attached.

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    I already know that.

    so what exactly makes people who want to do this a wannabe ?

    I'd still rather have a 16" barrel.
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    IMO: It's far easier to just let ADCO pin it for $30. I've gotten it done by them several times in the past (one very recently) and all have been perfect.

    Every time I've gotten my upper back in 5-7 days as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devildogljb View Post
    so what exactly makes people who want to do this a wannabe ?
    See my warning above in blue. I've asked that the "wannabe" discussion be ceased, please let it end.

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    Here is an example of one such barrel that had been re-parkerized after the silver solder job:

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR15barrels View Post
    When you twist off a pinned muzzle device, you damage the barrel beyond use...



    You would not believe some of the things people send me.
    That's why I take pictures.
    The first photos were scary looking the second ones made me laugh! This is exactly what I was looking for thank you. I thought there must have been a good reason. If it is too good to be true there is usually a reason.

    Keep the camera handy!
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