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Thread: Colt M4 will not be allowed to compete in Army carbine replacement trials

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    The Colt CM109 is going to win it hands down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK18Pilot View Post
    The Colt CM109 is going to win it hands down...
    what the hell is a colt cm109?

    I googled it didn't find anything.

    Please tell me it's NOT a piston m4....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kal View Post
    what the hell is a colt cm109?

    I googled it didn't find anything.

    Please tell me it's NOT a piston m4....
    Apparently, it is a battle rifle

    Colt CM901 (7.62mm Battle Rifle) confirmed
    David Crane of DefenseReview has confirmed the existence of the Colt CM901 (7.62mm Battle Rifle) whose existence was first revealed by Solider Systems a few days ago.
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    The Colt CM109 is going to win it hands down...


    Well that will never get accepted.


    There would be 60 years worth of crow to swallow that.
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    A freakin 7.62 nato battle rifle? Ain't happening.

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    This is govt mental masturbation at best. Don’t be confused with an administration dedicated to “hope and change” not doing a damn thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    If the Handgun trials were any indication, this will not end well.

    Not sure how you all feel about the M9 but a friend of mine that got back a short time ago was telling me that his unit figures the M9 is more useful to throw at an enemy to distract them while you reload your Primary than it is as a handgun.

    The problem with the M9 trials is they were held in the early 80s and they insisted on a double strike capacity. It's not that the M9 is a bad weapon (especially if you use reliable mags), it's just so many better ones exist.
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    If we do get new rifles it will be the SCAR thats my opnion. It is already in the system.

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    For them to require contenders to "knockout" M4 without having M4 actually compete, they'd have to specify some sort of performance parameters (attributable to M4) to be beat. I don't expect any of this to be a public data, but those performance parameters and definition of "knockout" may be able to say how objective this competition is before it even starts. That is, provided they set those definitions before the testing begins; would be the only fair way to do it. Somehow, I am skeptical that they'll pre-specify endpoints...

    Also, the end ot that article caught my attention:

    If the challenger scores a knockout, the winner will be required to sell its technical data rights soon after. Tamilio said the victor will get the bulk of the contract, but get two other manufacturers to join in production.
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    It just kills me sometimes that for the cost of about 1 of these new fangled next gen fighters we could equip the entirety of our ground forces with the best equipment that its possible to make at this time. I dont just mean a new rifle/carbine, I mean all equipment, rifle/carbine, sidearm, LMG, GPMG, HMG, body armor, comms, uniform, load bearing gear, boots, socks, drawers, eyepro, helmet, all of it.

    Would it really hurt the air force that much to have one or two less f22's to make that happen?
    Dont sweat the small stuff.


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