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    Quote Originally Posted by rsilvers View Post
    Good info. Not that it matters but I thought I saw somewhere that Gunn Ammo uses Wolf primers. Again, I don't think it really matters. It is just really nice to see cheaper ammo alternatives every other week!

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    I am not sure how this bullet ended up this way.


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    I am assuming that is a .300 BLK? If so, it is likely a long OTM bullet where the jacket peeled back, but the velocity was low enough that the jacket did not fully fold back against the bullet base--kind of like a super TSX

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    ^^sounds very logical, here are some 55gr. TSXs fully expanded after hitting steel @ 500yds +

    http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/a...SANY0017-2.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsilvers View Post
    The four loads I expect to see this year, in addition to the basic subsonic and supersonic, are:

    1. Polymer tip, optimal for bare gel in an SBR at closer ranges or a rifle at farther ranges.
    2. Bonded barrier bullet for LE, hunting, self defense.
    3. Military optimal penetration bullet, along the lines of Mk318/Mk319 SOST.
    4. Match bullet. Optimized for accuracy.
    Have we seen any of these loads released to the market yet?

    1. ?
    2. ?
    3. ?
    4. Rem 125 gr OTM?

    Any word on the Barnes 110 gr 300BLK specific bullets and how they are working?

    Spooky

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    is .300 whisper the same as .300 blk? aka, can be used in the same chamber?

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    1. Rem AccuTip or Atlanta Arms 125. Both will be out this year.
    2. Not as a bonded, but as a solid copper from Barnes soon. December or January.
    3. No. But probability will happen in 2012.
    4. Yes, the Rem Match ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by An Undocumented Worker View Post
    is .300 whisper the same as .300 blk? aka, can be used in the same chamber?
    I can't answer that until someone shows me a 300 Whisper(R) drawing from SSK - which to this day I have never seen. As far as I know, it is unpublished and a trade secret.

    I can say that Hornady considers their 300 Whisper ammo safe to use in a 300 BLK chamber, as they specifically made their ammo to be within 300 BLK specs.
    Last edited by rsilvers; 10-30-11 at 11:54.

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    We have been playing around with the 300 at work with good results, at least against paper targets.

    Our 7.62-SDN-6 cans performed very well not only on our Noveske 8" upper, but also on our 5.56 carbines and a LWRC REPR. It seems to be the "can do all" can that we are looking for.

    Ammo used was the subsonic Remington, and the CMMG 147 grain plinking ammo. The Remington performed well, and even the CMMG was surprising acceptable considering they used pulled M80 rounds to make em.

    I picked up a CMMG 300 upper in a trade and it also worked very well, despite the fact that the cotter pin was out of spec and would not go flush into the carrier. I am not a big fan of CMMG and was hesitant to acquire it. I need to put more rounds through it to trust for anything other than hog hunting.

    It should be noted that the 300 may accidentally be chambered into a 5.56 gun as documented on the Lightfighter.net forums. The bullet was pressed back into the cartridge upon chambering, and destroyed the weapon when fired. Thus, care must be taken if both calibers are in your inventory.

    Overall, I am very impressed with the 300 and we will continue to test it once the coming months. The 7.62-SDN-6 suppressor was simply outstanding.
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    Do you have a 762sd you can compare it.to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javelin View Post
    Do you have a 762sd you can compare it.to?
    Nope. I did compare it to my AAC SPR/M4 can and the SDN sounded just a tad bit louder. This is our first 7.62 can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsilvers View Post
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    I'm just putting this all together for ease of reference:

    1. Polymer tip, optimal for bare gel in an SBR at closer ranges or a rifle at farther ranges.
    -- Rem AccuTip or Atlanta Arms 125. Both will be out this year



    2. Bonded barrier bullet for LE, hunting, self defense.
    -- Not as a bonded, but as a solid copper from Barnes soon. December or January
    -- Probably this round?


    3. Military optimal penetration bullet, along the lines of Mk318/Mk319 SOST.
    -- Probably will happen in 2012.

    4. Match bullet. Optimized for accuracy.
    -- Rem Match 125 grain OTM



    5. Mass Quantity Ammo - a.k.a. cheap!
    -- Remington UMC 115 Grain


    I just updated this... Very impressive we are close to having all these different loads available for the 300 BLK in the near future (late-2011, early-2012). Again, hats off to AAC/Remington to getting this 300 BLK rolling in a big, unstoppable way!
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    Yes, that is the Barnes 300 BLK Barrier ammo. The bullet is still being tuned and set up for mass production. Barnes did not tell me when it would be out, but my impression was Nov/Dec/Jan timeframe - but I think November is unlikely as the tips are especially large and the mold was still being created for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spooky130 View Post
    I'm just putting this all together for ease of reference...
    Don't forget the lower cost ammo, this will be as important to the growth of the round as any other...

    I think Robert said UMC, OTM, 115 gr (?), sealed and crimped. MSRP $12.99/box.

    Available end of this month or so.

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    This is preliminary data:


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    The TTSX looks nice out of the 9"; do you have similar data for a 16"?

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    Not yet. They are still tuning the bullet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocGKR View Post
    The TTSX looks nice out of the 9"; do you have similar data for a 16"?
    Nice? That is revoltionary, good old American enginuity at its finest, lets hope this catridge is quickly adopted and ammo prices remain reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsilvers View Post
    This is preliminary data:



    .30 110gr 2186 fps.....not that far from .30 Carbine

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