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    ok so my ffl dealer and buddy just brought up another rifle for me to look at and i wont lie i know very little about this rifle besides the companys name.
    he said to look at bushmasters modular carbine.
    here is a link the the website:
    http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWVMF16FMC.asp

    are there any big negitives against bushmaster vs dd?

    both will run me around the same price

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    You sure he's friend? kidding! Uhmm... lets put it this way.... Big negatives would be putting it lightly...
    Use the search button and look up Bushmaster, you'll see all the issues people have had with them. Personally, I had one that had such a tight chamber, I had to bring little picks and tweezers to clear the lower receiver pocket of popped primers if they werent getting stuck on the bolt face or in the bolt lugs. Sold it after only 100 or so rounds through it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelza85 View Post
    ok so my ffl dealer and buddy just brought up another rifle for me to look at and i wont lie i know very little about this rifle besides the companys name.
    he said to look at bushmasters modular carbine.
    here is a link the the website:
    http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWVMF16FMC.asp

    are there any big negitives against bushmaster vs dd?

    both will run me around the same price
    bushmaster is tier suck-dick. your FFL/buddy is obviously a typical FFL- don't trust his opinion on anything firearm related.

    between the DD and BCM- flip a coin. literally.

    these "which should i buy, DD or BCM?" threads are getting super old
    Last edited by Iraqgunz; 10-21-10 at 02:24. Reason: Oops. Wrong button.

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    If it means anything to you. Were some one to give me a BM I would take it and sell it to Al-Qaeda. If you really want a middy I will recommend the BCM simply because I have shot one and was impressed with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by wheelza85 View Post
    ok so my ffl dealer and buddy just brought up another rifle for me to look at and i wont lie i know very little about this rifle besides the companys name.
    he said to look at bushmasters modular carbine.
    here is a link the the website:
    http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWVMF16FMC.asp

    are there any big negitives against bushmaster vs dd?

    both will run me around the same price
    Last edited by Iraqgunz; 10-21-10 at 02:20.



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    I agree. I cringe whenever a new one pops up because BM, DPMS, Oly Arms, ad nauseum will get thrown out there starting a whole new set of problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    bushmaster is tier suck-dick. your FFL/buddy is obviously a typical FFL- don't trust his opinion on anything firearm related.

    between the DD and BCM- flip a coin. literally.

    these "which should i buy, DD or BCM?" threads are getting super old
    Last edited by Iraqgunz; 10-21-10 at 02:26.



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    Okay, this is just my 2 cents...

    - BCM has been building rifles/uppers longer than DD
    - BCM has done a lot of the development work on gas port diameters/locations for the midlength and its various gas port diameters.
    - With volume, stuff slips through the cracks - but how many threads have we seen about a BCM upper or rifle that wouldn't run, or a BCM barrel or part that was out of spec? And how many threads of that kind have we seen about DD? I'll answer that - more of the latter than the former.

    I will say that the issues with DD seem to be with components (several reports of undersized gas ports, one barrel that wouldn't headspace, out of spec bolt catches, triggers not machined out for the disconnector spring, off the top of my head), not rifles - but it's unsettling nonetheless.
    - The DD has a notched hammer with (as I understand it) dimensions that are unique to DD and the BCM has a rounded hammer.
    - For some reason, DD taper pins are shorter than any other "standard" (Colt/BCM) taper pin that I've seen. I don't think this matters functionally, but I do wonder why they deviated from "the norm" on what seems like a meaningless point. Same goes for the hammer.

    DD has come out with some really great rail systems over the years and continues to improve them as time goes on. They deserve every accolade they can get for these items. However, I think some people automatically carry over that good will they have towards DD regarding rail systems to other components - which may or may not be warranted, but it does seem to be unquestioned.

    All of that said, if you want one with a rail system, "smartgunner.com" has DD uppers with hammer forged barrels and Lite rails (your choice of rail and barrel length) for $525. Midlengths are $25 more. That's without the BCG, but it's still a screaming deal. The OP could avoid paying FET this way as well. He could still get a DD lower and have a complete DD rifle if he wanted, and I bet he could do it for under a grand - with a Lite rail - that's a great deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Were some one to give me a BM I would take it and sell it to Al-Qaeda.
    Hee! Hee! Hee!

    I wonder if the French make a version of the AR15 as bad as a BM. I understand the Iranians have an M16 clone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelza85 View Post
    are you asking the reason for the rifle or reason for not wanting a fixed front sight post?
    your reason. what is YOUR reason for not wanting a fixed FSB?...
    never push a wrench...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelza85 View Post
    ok so my ffl dealer and buddy just brought up another rifle for me to look at and i wont lie i know very little about this rifle besides the companys name.
    he said to look at bushmasters modular carbine.
    here is a link the the website:
    http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWVMF16FMC.asp

    are there any big negitives against bushmaster vs dd?

    both will run me around the same price
    OH. MY. DOG.... mods, do we really need another thread like this?
    can't we just shuttle this stuff off the the "I'm new but also too lazy to look around and find my own answers" forum?

    I submit that the next "XX vs. XXX, which is better?" thread immediately gets shut down and the poster gets 10 internets taken away...
    never push a wrench...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelza85 View Post
    ok so my ffl dealer and buddy just brought up another rifle for me to look at and i wont lie i know very little about this rifle besides the companys name.
    he said to look at bushmasters modular carbine.
    here is a link the the website:
    http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWVMF16FMC.asp

    are there any big negitives against bushmaster vs dd?

    both will run me around the same price
    Dude, he is not your friend... LOL I own a BM out of ignorance and I would not recomend it to a friend.

    Between DD and BCM... thats like saying should I bang Blake Lively or Olivia Wilde... really the choice is blond or brunette lol, can't go wrong.

    If your needs can be found in a DD off the shelf gun then your good to go, and BCM has just about every type of upper imaginable so there is very little chance your needs can not be met by them.
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