The Official Why My DPMS, Del-Ton, Oly Arms, Etc. Is Better Than Anything Else Thread

[usmcvet]

This is all I said.

What you implied is they're the same. I know of a leather company that builds the same product of thinner leather for a huge mail order company and they use the same part number. It is not the same product it is inferior even though the same company, people and machines make it. When you go in with cash and an order for thousands of a product they will make it to your spec. It is done by other industries too. It is the way the business world works.

[Don Robison]

They make the same pieces for Del Ton, RRA and Bushmaster.

Unless all of those companies submit the same specs/tolerances and have the same QC as FN; they aren't the same pieces other than in general appearance.

[EdH]

What you implied is they're the same. I know of a leather company that builds the same product of thinner leather for a huge mail order company and they use the same part number. It is not the same product it is inferior even though the same company, people and machines make it. When you go in with cash and an order for thousands of a product they will make it to your spec. It is done by other industries too. It is the way the business world works.

No, I implied that you email and check for yourself.

[hals1]

I had a Bushmaster that I put 60 rounds through without a hitch. Sure wished I hadn't unloaded it and bought a BCM 16" middie

[glocktogo]

No, I implied that you email and check for yourself.

What you implied is silly and inconsequential.

As of July 1, 2009, the sole-source clause of the “M4 Addendum” expired. The Army now has the right to use the M4 TDP to second source production, as an extension of the 1967 licensing agreement for the M16. Until the end of calender year 2037, the Army will have to pay 5% in royalties to Colt for every M4 procured from second sources.

The TDP remains Colt proprietary data, and any second source M4 contractor will be required to sign non-disclosure agreements just as they do for the M16. The non-disclosure/non-use agreements for accessing the TDP will forbid the other companies from using Colt’s proprietary data for commercial sales. Once their military contract ends, the company will be required to be destroy all of the TDP information provided to them.

The following link provides the US Army’s standard non-disclosure/non-use agreement for contractors accessing the M16 TDP:

https://aais.ria.army.mil/AAIS/Solin..._Agreement.doc

Anything else you care to add to the discussion (that's not silly of course)?

[EdH]

What you implied is silly and inconsequential.



Anything else you care to add to the discussion (that's not silly of course)?

Does this mean they will not tell you the tolerance of their commercial products?

call, email. I've nothing more to say because I don't have a horse in your race.

[smokey0118]

this will blow your mind, 100 yd group from a 100% reliable cheap build that's not top tier....
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tactical innovations lower, del-ton heavy midlength upper 1/9 twist chrome lined, bcm bcg, yhm diamond free float tube, timney 4# skeleton, red head epic scope with red-head see-through rings(quicker and easier than getting a riser or paying big loot for larue stuff). I've shot 500+ each trip on various trips to the range shooting wolf, walmart's tul-ammo, hornady, ati 62 gr, various handloads, and the list goes on never experiencing any malfunction.

the del-ton upper from the factory had a very loose barrel nut, but is unchanged except for adding the new handguard and the bcg.

[glocktogo]

Does this mean they will not tell you the tolerance of their commercial products?

call, email. I've nothing more to say because I don't have a horse in your race.

I'll take that as a no.

[glocktogo]

this will blow your mind, 100 yd group from a 100% reliable cheap build that's not top tier....
Attachment 6981
tactical innovations lower, del-ton heavy midlength upper 1/9 twist chrome lined, bcm bcg, yhm diamond free float tube, timney 4# skeleton, red head epic scope with red-head see-through rings(quicker and easier than getting a riser or paying big loot for larue stuff). I've shot 500+ each trip on various trips to the range shooting wolf, walmart's tul-ammo, hornady, ati 62 gr, various handloads, and the list goes on never experiencing any malfunction.

the del-ton upper from the factory had a very loose barrel nut, but is unchanged except for adding the new handguard and the bcg.
Attachment 6982

What I came away from your post with that was valuable:

the del-ton upper from the factory had a very loose barrel nut, but is unchanged except for adding the new handguard and the BCM bcg.

[ucrt]

this will blow your mind, 100 yd group from a 100% reliable cheap build that's not top tier....

tactical innovations lower, del-ton heavy midlength upper 1/9 twist chrome lined, bcm bcg, yhm diamond free float tube, timney 4# skeleton, red head epic scope with red-head see-through rings(quicker and easier than getting a riser or paying big loot for larue stuff). I've shot 500+ each trip on various trips to the range shooting wolf, walmart's tul-ammo, hornady, ati 62 gr, various handloads, and the list goes on never experiencing any malfunction.

the del-ton upper from the factory had a very loose barrel nut, but is unchanged except for adding the new handguard and the bcg.

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OK, sample of one cheap jury-rigged Bass Pro Chinese-scoped rifle that is accurate for 4-shots??

....If you have faith in your weapon, sign up for a 5 day carbine class & let us know how it worked out for you.

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To me, GermanSynergy's advice in the above quote is the best in this Thread.


Smokey, it looks like your Post contradicts your signature line.

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