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Thread: Comparison Chart of Major AR Brands

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbfurr View Post
    Two companies, Colt Defense and FN, have access to and use of the Government Technical Drawing Package (TDP), and literally sign away the life of their company that they cannot and will not use that TDP for anything other than government contracted builds.
    In regards to FN you are correct.

    Hate to pile on, but in regards to Colt that is incorrect. It is the Government that has purchased a nonexclusive license agreement (DAAF03-67-C-0108) for the TDP from Colt. Meaning it is the Government that has limited use of Colt's TDP.

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    Keep the discussion on track.
    Last edited by STAFF; 10-22-07 at 08:36. Reason: Not adding to the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUNNEL RAT 33 View Post
    that is a great chart . i am curious as to where HK, POF, and LWRC fit in on the chart . would like to hear your input .
    It's something I've toyed with, but it would be a separate chart. Some of the items, like barrel steel and QC for barrel steel, would be the same. I'd probably have to add a column for piston type (short, long, whatever) as well.

    Frankly, the piston guns don't hold much interest for me so it's tough to get excited enough about them to take the time to do the research and compile the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekie View Post
    If Sabre Defence was to have aquired Colt's TDP in a legitimate fasion, they are not to be discussing it with you, as per the NDA:
    Is it actually Colt's or the Military's? Couldn't the military have it's own criteria for spare parts that includes the specs for all the individual parts?

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    I have a S&W M&PT with a BCM Bolt group and a H2 buffer, If I replace the upper with M4 feed ramps and upgrade the barrel with a LMT or BCM, how would that stack up?

    Bri

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    Quote Originally Posted by UVvis View Post
    Is it actually Colt's or the Military's? Couldn't the military have it's own criteria for spare parts that includes the specs for all the individual parts?
    No, the M16/M4 TDP is Colt's. For example, here is an award for some minor replacement parts, notice the clause stating that the TDP is subject to restrictions:

    https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award...R0309/0000.pdf
    Last edited by Ekie; 10-22-07 at 10:04. Reason: to add a reference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Thanks. I am surprised someone has not obtained it via FOIA or something.
    Colt's TDP is exempted from the FOIA, see Exemption 4, TRADE SECRETS:

    http://www.usdoj.gov/oip/exemption4.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekie View Post
    Colt's TDP is exempted from the FOIA, see Exemption 4, TRADE SECRETS:

    http://www.usdoj.gov/oip/exemption4.htm
    "or something"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    "or something"
    Yes, there are other methods, see Christianson v. Colt Industries.

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