Comparison Chart of Major AR Brands

[Pat_Rogers]

Aside from the few fools who like to push their post count, i am pleasantly surprised at the reception the chart has received, especially on GT.

Some people get it. Some don't.
Just like everything else...

[SLR15]

Rob,

there are several things and brands missing from your chart.

A few brands that come to mind:
Ameetec
Cavarms
Del-ton
D&L
DSA
Fulton
High Standard
JP Industries
JT
LesBear
Magpul
M&A Parts
Model-1
SLR15
Superior
Vulcan (formerly known as Hesse and now marketing under Blackthorne)
Wilson

Also things like the proper staking section could be open to intrepretation, as most of the S&W/Stag stuff I have been seeing in armoring courses has been staked using a flat cold chisel.

CY6
Greg Sullivan "Sully"

[C4IGrant]

Rob,

there are several things and brands missing from your chart.

A few brands that come to mind:
Ameetec
Cavarms
Del-ton
D&L
DSA
Fulton
High Standard
JP Industries
JT
LesBear
Magpul
M&A Parts
Model-1
SLR15
Superior
Vulcan (formerly known as Hesse and now marketing under Blackthorne)
Wilson

Also things like the proper staking section could be open to intrepretation, as most of the S&W/Stag stuff I have been seeing in armoring courses has been staked using a flat cold chisel.

CY6
Greg Sullivan "Sully"

Personally, a lot of those brands wouldn't be worth my time to put on a chart. Not to mention that a lot of them flat out lie about the components they are using. You would have to do a destructive test on the barrels and bolts just to see what they were made out of. To make it even harder, most of these companies are constantly shopping around for the cheapest parts available. So one month you might get a CMT BCG (good) and the next month they get them from Lord knows where.

I don't follow on the staking thing. There are really only two good ways to do it. Any way you slice it, the flat chisel one is one of the worst.

All S&W AR's now come with LMT BCG's. These are all staked properly.


C4

[rob_s]

I'm also not sure that any of those companies make complete rifles and/or complete rifles in the M4-ish appearance.

[rob_s]

New version posted.

[C4IGrant]

New version posted.

That looks good. Now people won't get butt hurt because a certain part is rated higher than they think it should be.


C4

[AR15barrels]

New version posted.

It still says 070801 on it.

How about updating it to a .gif file AND changing it's date to 8/6/2007 ?
I'm a graphics guru if you want to send the excel file my way.

[Pat_Rogers]

Actually, Defensive Edge- Sully's company- does.

You are doing a great job, and in printing it opening yourself up for a lot of rockets.
We have seen enough of chambers from some of the companies to have an idea that they may not be consistent, but also understand that this is the best that you can do w/o sophisticated testing.
Good Job!

[AR15barrels]

Is S&W using complete LMT bolt carrier groups, or just LMT carriers?

I did not notice the black extractor buffer being marked on S&W's column, but LMT bolts certainly include them.

[ST911]

I've already seen a reference to "buying from the left." One wonders if such a reference will be as commonplace as references to tiers.