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Considered by many. Many also consider that law enforcement misconduct is rarely reported by other officers.

Unfortunately, circumstances have brought it to the point where many people see LE as not necessarily evil, but also not necessarily good.

While living in NOLA, there was a common saying, "Better to be carjacked than pulled over by NOPD." That attitude now permeates most of America. Are there good LE? Of course. The public just wonders why the good LE aren't arresting the bad. Their misconduct doesn't happen in a vacuum. And that is a cause for concern and a cause for questioning.

[Mr blasty]

Yeah, no kidding.

I wonder if people who feel that way ever consider that people like us are their neighbors and equally at the mercy of our employers.

I'm definitely a friend of LEO'S but should our paths cross, I'll be skittish as hell around you until I get a feel for you. I'm extremely distrustful of LE organizations and groups of officers. Then it often transfers into group think and policies which often times in today's society are downright Orwellien. The county I'm in is about as Socialists as you can ask for, while other counties in my state can be absolutely wonderful.

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[Freethought]

Considered by many. Many also consider that law enforcement misconduct is rarely reported by other officers.

Unfortunately, circumstances have brought it to the point where many people see LE as not necessarily evil, but also not necessarily good.

While living in NOLA, there was a common saying, "Better to be carjacked than pulled over by NOPD." That attitude now permeates most of America. Are there good LE? Of course. The public just wonders why the good LE aren't arresting the bad. Their misconduct doesn't happen in a vacuum. And that is a cause for concern and a cause for questioning.

Hhhhmmmm , so you pick the most corrupt dept in the country as an example to back your point? Isn't that a bit like judging every firearms owner on the criteria of the actions of 18th Street , West Side Locos etc?

[LowSpeed_HighDrag]

Considered by many. Many also consider that law enforcement misconduct is rarely reported by other officers.

Unfortunately, circumstances have brought it to the point where many people see LE as not necessarily evil, but also not necessarily good.

While living in NOLA, there was a common saying, "Better to be carjacked than pulled over by NOPD." That attitude now permeates most of America. Are there good LE? Of course. The public just wonders why the good LE aren't arresting the bad. Their misconduct doesn't happen in a vacuum. And that is a cause for concern and a cause for questioning.

[RioGrandeGreen]

Yeah were all bad!

http://www.kvia.com/news/person-shot...stody/37828462

http://www.kvia.com/news/victim-of-a...oting/37873210

[henschman]

Most of my arsenal is geared towards a 2A situation... you know, refreshing the old tree of liberty.

If you're planning on shooting it out in the streets or the woods with the suited psychopaths' hired muscle, you're going at it all wrong. If you're waiting until they're kicking down your door, you're doing it wrong too.

Everybody is vulnerable sometime, somewhere. Everybody has to go to sleep at night. Assassinations, ambushes, sniper attacks, concentrated attacks against vulnerable targets, then melting back into the populace would be the order of the day. An arsenal geared towards these tactics makes the most sense to me.

[Moose-Knuckle]

Everybody is vulnerable sometime, somewhere. Everybody has to go to sleep at night. Assassinations, ambushes, sniper attacks, concentrated attacks against vulnerable targets, then melting back into the populace would be the order of the day. An arsenal geared towards these tactics makes the most sense to me.

I see you have read The Gulag Archipelago, wished more would . . .

[SteveS]

I guess that places a lot of us in your crosshairs...

I have no one in my cross hairs

[sabrefan]

Water.

I have a fairly defensible position and plenty of weapons and ammo. Can you imagine about 3 days without water?

I've been putting it off, but a well with a manual pump is a must.

Oh. And here's something stupid, to show just how fleeting life could be. Caffeine. I'm addicted to caffeine. One full day without and I'm no good to anyone. Chills, cold sweats, migraine, then throw up and repeat. I don't have any idea what the second day would be like.

AR and Glock G43 or like.

[henschman]

I see you have read The Gulag Archipelago, wished more would . . .

I actually never have read it. It's definitely on the list though. I did however run across this excellent quote from Volume II which made quite an impression on me:

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.

Thought provoking stuff. Easy to say in 20/20 hindsight what you should have done, but its hard to know when that moment is that you have nothing to lose when you are in the moment. One must constantly be very honest with oneself about whether that point has been reached. Also I think it is better to err on the side of going hot too soon rather than too late. It's always going to be easier to say "I'll put up with it now, but if they deny me one more liberty, that'll be it!"