Originally Posted by snappy
Echoed... Contact the host range/organization. They should have all the regs ironed out.
Jeff
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Echoed... Contact the host range/organization. They should have all the regs ironed out.
Jeff
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I took a course from LAV in CA last year; I live in Las Vegas. I researched this quite a bit and could find NO EVIDENCE of any exception to any CA regulations that pertained to training courses. I ended up borrowing 10-round mags from a member here to avoid any sort of potential problems. I highly suggest you tread lightly and contact the CA DOJ before you bring anything in state.
And don't think being a "good guy" will get you off the hook with the cops; a member in the BARFCOM NV hometown forum posted a story about his active-duty Marine nephew being arrested for having a loaded 1911 locked in a safe in his car.
Jay
Edit: I forgot to add that this was for a pistol course so there may be a difference between "high-capacity" mags and other banned features.
Last edited by dookie1481; 12-08-10 at 12:06.
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If the gun goes dry I use my knife. If the knife breaks off I use my teeth. I have only one rule - Start one job and see it through - The universe will have to offer someone else the leftovers. Multi tasking doesn't work in business or in gunfighting.
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Yeah, if this is a Vickers-sanctioned course, I'd be shocked if they don't set you up properly coming from out of state. I'd also be shocked if you didn't have LEO classmates who could help you out.
In CA you can't have a loaded anything outside your home (or other designated areas)... loaded anything in an automobile is a HUGE no-no, esp. if they catch you. Question is... how did they get a warrant to open up the locked safe in the car? I am pretty sure it requires a warrant to search locked containers, so there is more to the story than just that one issue.
Some people advise not even packing ammo/magazines in the same container as a gun so there is no possibility of LEO making a "mistake".
Yeah, we live in a crazy place, but we make-do.
Last edited by scootle; 12-08-10 at 17:07. Reason: typos
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No, it was a car accident, they asked and he told them that there was a weapon in the car. I understand the circumstances are different, my point is, if you do end up breaking the rules, don't expect the police to let you off because you're a "good guy".
Jay
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of football team, or some nuclear weapons, but in the very least you need a beer."
— Frank Zappa
If the gun goes dry I use my knife. If the knife breaks off I use my teeth. I have only one rule - Start one job and see it through - The universe will have to offer someone else the leftovers. Multi tasking doesn't work in business or in gunfighting.
- Michael de Bethencourt
Senior Member
I took LAV's Basic Pistol and I couldn't get anyone to help me out with this shit either...I took it upon myself to try and find the answer.
The answer I found: no one seems to know if it's ok or not.
Jay
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of football team, or some nuclear weapons, but in the very least you need a beer."
— Frank Zappa
If the gun goes dry I use my knife. If the knife breaks off I use my teeth. I have only one rule - Start one job and see it through - The universe will have to offer someone else the leftovers. Multi tasking doesn't work in business or in gunfighting.
- Michael de Bethencourt
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i just built a new rifle, when i was planning on heading into enemy lines. ask Titleist about it- he's got the skinny on heading into cali for training. i'm pretty sure he even took SBRs, but that's just going from foggy memory.
personally, i wouldn't trust any "law" to protect me. laws aren't for the citizen, this day and age- they're against.
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Snappy do you have more info on the class your talking about? When and where is it? I'd like to go, but I do not see it on Vickers training schedule. Tactical Response will be in Sac in Feb I'd like to go but will not risk it without further info.
http://vickerstactical.com/training-...ning-schedule/
Also FWIW I spoke to a gal in the AG's office and she told me you can not bring an AK to California for training, only competion. I was not fully confident in her knowledge and intend to keep trying. I want something in writing before I cross that line.
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It is proving to be difficult to get definitive answers, however it turns out I won't be able to take this course after all. A horse packing trip I was asked to guide on in Mongolia is now a go and I'll be over there for all of Aug. AK training, at least with Mr. Vickers, will have to wait. Many MANY thanks to all for sharing info in this thread. Maybe it'll point the next person in the right direction and avoid hassles or worse. Cheers all-
Last edited by snappy; 12-17-10 at 12:09. Reason: Clean up post
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Wow... horse packing in Mongolia?! I would definitely love to see the AAR for that one!Good luck!
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Thanks! Schedule as of now is 26 days in the saddle in the remote northern part of the country. I am looking greatly forward to it.Wow... horse packing in Mongolia?! I would definitely love to see the AAR for that one!
We will actually be accompanied by a small group of soldiers, including a couple officers who have done the trip before with the trip leader, who is a good friend of mine. The soldiers carry AK's on the trip and I'm *hoping* my enthusiasm will encourage them to share their training and shooting skills along the way.Will definitely take pics of the weapons and soldiers to post here for those interested.
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