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Thread: M4A1 "heavy" barrel...useless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    skich on TOS sold them. They were $325 shipped IIRC. Brand new with the packing wick still in them.
    I built quite a few uppers for people with skich provided M4A1 barrels...
    That was a good deal for a good barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    skich on TOS sold them. They were $325 shipped IIRC. Brand new with the packing wick still in them.

    Same barrels I was refering to.





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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    True Jeff. But at that price point ($495 from SAW) a mid-length Noveske 14.5" Afghan barrel (w/pinned GB) would accomplish the same thing, and be quite a bit more accurate and for less ($430 and IMO would be better still).


    I myself prefer fixed FSBs on carbines...Id opt for the SOCOM barrel.
    NOT in training for combat deployment.

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    I ran a 16" HBAR for over 10 years.. Some of the characteristics I liked about it vs the Gov profile were.

    - accurate for longer periods when using sustained rate of fire.
    - Heavier barrel kept muzzle climp and recoil to a minimum. This was an advantage on rapid follow up shots/Hammers,etc .

    When I got my M-4 Gov profile barrel, I did notice a sligh incread in muzzle jump and recoil.

    I believe there are some advantages to the heavier profile, but it's up to each individual to decide on the trade offs.

    I never sweated the Gov. profile vs. HBAR weight difference as I never had a problem with the sligh increase. pick one that satisfies a need or a role and drive on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy196 View Post
    I myself prefer fixed FSBs on carbines...Id opt for the SOCOM barrel.
    Well - Grant can get FSB installed on a Noveske barrel. He did my 10.5" that way.

    Came out awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulinski View Post
    Well - Grant can get FSB installed on a Noveske barrel. He did my 10.5" that way.

    Came out awesome.
    Yes those were some badass barrels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulinski View Post
    Well - Grant can get FSB installed on a Noveske barrel. He did my 10.5" that way.

    Came out awesome.
    I have done a few FSB installs on Noveske barrels as well.
    It's not rocket science...
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    On TOS someone made the claim that the SF M4A1s sit in the armories, since no one wants to carry them around due to their greater weight. So, I had hoped someone here could confirm/refute this claim.

    I jumped on the mid-weight bandwagon and got one of Denny's 16" "Operator" barrels; just wanted to know if there was any real reason for the heavier barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wild_wild_wes View Post
    On TOS someone made the claim that the SF M4A1s sit in the armories, since no one wants to carry them around due to their greater weight. So, I had hoped someone here could confirm/refute this claim.

    I jumped on the mid-weight bandwagon and got one of Denny's 16" "Operator" barrels; just wanted to know if there was any real reason for the heavier barrel.
    I don't know if thats true at all (the claim from TOS). I doubt that all SF arms rooms have both M4s and M4A1s in their inventory. Like someone said earlier it's only 4oz heavier.

    From what I understand:

    (safe-semi-burst) M4s still get original Gov't profile M4 cut barrels.
    and
    (safe-semi-auto) M4A1s get the heavier SOCOM barrels.
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    I have not seen a "non-SOCOM" profile barrel since 2002 in any SOF unit. We do not have the option of carrying the lighter barrel, we only have heavy M4 barrels in our arms room. When I shoot out one barrel, I get another heavy barrel. I don't get to pick at that point either.

    TOS is stupid (again)

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